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re: LSU Baseball's pitching decision from Friday Night: Someone explain them to me..

Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:45 am to
Posted by LSUTygerFan
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:45 am to
but the tittays are watching baseball. so , not legit.
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:48 am to
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False. He could have gone Sunday. Again, his issue was with back to back days. I believe he has thrown Wednesday (might have been a Tuesday) and Friday this year.

ETA: He has 10 saves. Not all of them came on weekends.



He's also closed on back to back nights. The issue is whether or not he's been as effective.

I'm pretty confident in saying that if we see him in a 2 inning save situation on Friday...the coaches are going to be less than confident in him on a Sunday. That doesn't mean he wouldn't pitch depending on the situation. It just means that when they make that decision on Friday...they do it knowing it could effect Sunday and will definitely affect Saturday.

And, that was my point. Maineri wasn't willing to commit Stallings to 2+ innings in the 7th. But he was willing to make that decision in a tie game from the 9th on.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:48 am to
Baseball wasn't played during that world series and you know it!
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:49 am to
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Especially when you refuse to bunt the runners over when you have 1st and 2nd with zero out in a tie ballgame in the 11th.



That was a much worse decision IMO.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:51 am to
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He's also closed on back to back nights.
The two times he did it was when he was shaky. Houston and Ole Miss.
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It just means that when they make that decision on Friday...they do it knowing it could effect Sunday and will definitely affect Saturday.
Of course they were aware. It's still a dumbass decision.
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Maineri wasn't willing to commit Stallings to 2+ innings in the 7th. But he was willing to make that decision in a tie game from the 9th on.
That's really two completely different situations. There a procedure for regulation. A script. They didn't follow it when they brought him in late. I don't think it was ever a plan for him to go deep. It was a mistake from the start.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:51 am to
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pretty confident in saying that if we see him in a 2 inning save situation on Friday...the coaches are going to be less than confident in him on a Sunday.


Friday wasn't a save situation though.
Posted by LSUTygerFan
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:52 am to
well, y'all still don't know what y'all are talking about.

and only people who know everything about a sport should comment on that sport.
Posted by redfieldk717
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:53 am to
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well, y'all still don't know what y'all are talking about.

and only people who know everything about a sport should comment on that sport.


where's russian when you need him
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:58 am to
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and only people who know everything about a sport should comment on that sport.



Says the guy with 30,000+ posts
Posted by gumbeaux
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:58 am to
Without reading through all the responses, here is my theory on what happened with regard to Stallings.

Winning the first game of a series is critical. It is very hard to win the last two games to win the series. LSU had to do this vs. Arkansas.

I believe that Maneiri put in Stallings gambling that LSU would score a run in the bottom half to win the game. But LSU didn't. So he gambled another inning with Stallings. And again LSU did not score.

By then, Maneiri was committed to Stallings. He wanted this Friday night game badly. So he kept riding Stallings for 4 innings and he got bit in the arse for it since he burned Stallings for the remaining 2 games.

It would not have been so bad if LSU had won the game. Losing the game made it that much worse. But Maneiri brought it upon himself in one instance by not bunting with runners on first and second with no outs. Bregman brought it upon Maneiri when he was hit by the grounder hit by Hale.

And I want to reassure everyone that the no bunting argument is NOT hindsight. I was telling Maneiri into the TV to bunt for the entire at bat. It was an easy decision! Maneiri had the exact same situation a couple of games prior to Friday's game and he chose not to bunt then either. And again it did not work out. It will be interesting to see what he does if this situation comes up again.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 12:00 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:04 pm to
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And I want to reassure everyone that the no bunting argument is NOT hindsight. I was telling Maneiri into the TV to bunt for the entire at bat. It was an easy decision! Maneiri had the exact same situation a couple of games prior to Friday's game and he chose not to bunt then either. And again it did not work out. It will be interesting to see what he does if this situation comes up again.


Everybody and their mother was screaming into the TV. It's indefensible and fans have a right to be pissed. The guy gets paid big bucks and can't make the simplest baseball decision ever when the game is on the line. You're right, it isn't hindsight, it isn't "just baseball." It was stupidity.
Posted by redfieldk717
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:10 pm to
The baseball gods just didn't have it in the cards for us that night gt
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:11 pm to
Baseball gods can get fricked!
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:17 pm to
I thought Mainieri made a pretty ingenious move in the 8th inning of a tied game by pinch hitting for one of your hottest hitters just because the other team brought in a lefty. Let's overlook the fact that the previously discussed hot hitter hasn't been retired by a lefty pitcher all season long. We bring in the righty, to which UK counters by changing pitchers to a right hander. It was super genius for Paul Mainieri then to waste that pinch hitter and replace him with a true freshman with 2 career bat attempts. This same true freshman later bats in a key spot in the game, but Mainieri has no idea if the kid can bunt or not, because he's only had two at bats in his entire LSU career.

Great move!!!
Posted by upgrade
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:26 pm to
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Everybody and their mother was screaming into the TV. It's indefensible and fans have a right to be pissed. The guy gets paid big bucks and can't make the simplest baseball decision ever when the game is on the line. You're right, it isn't hindsight, it isn't "just baseball." It was stupidity.


Yea, I'm on team NO BUNT and was wondering why the frick we ain't bunting here.
I'm not a fan of bunting all game long but right there you fricking bunt the ball.
And after you move the runners to second and third with just one out, you debate a squeeze bunt.
Posted by lsufan251875
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:46 pm to
I'm willing to chalk up Friday as a bad game. Even coaches are entitled to them, and every decision he made bit him in the arse.

Even with that, this team could have and should have won or swept this series. He can't control Bregman being unable to dodge a groundswell. He can't control an injury to Fraley and his sub making the dumbest play on a ball.
Posted by LSUTygerFan
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:49 pm to
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Says the guy with 30,000+ posts


you don't know what you're talking about
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 12:50 pm to
This is not a sarcastic post.
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