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re: Official Better Call Saul - Episode 9 "Pimento"
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:28 am to Byron Bojangles III
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:28 am to Byron Bojangles III
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It was weird seeing Trevor from GTA on here
At first I thought it was capt Lance
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:45 am to SmackoverHawg
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Nope. She knows his brother is fricking him and will never let him in the firm. She don't want to hurt him
She didn't know until Hamlin told her, he obviously trusted her to not spill it to Jimmy and she didn't but Saul is pretty sharp, 2 and 2 added up for him.
In one epi the entire answer to Saul is now exposed, BOOM!
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 12:47 am
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:49 am to Big L
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but we know he ends up in hiding as a mAnager for Cinnabon, depressed as shite.
I don't think it ends there. Hell, it may even get bookcased like in season 2 of breaking bad. By season four he may come out of hiding, so many people he was associated with are dead or gone. The main threats aren't there anymore and I'm not sure if the police really have anything on him that can stick.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 2:35 am to SEClint
What's interesting now is how we should view Hamlin. On a rewatch, does he become a fairly sympathetic character?
Also, I think there's much more to Nacho Varga...
Also, I think there's much more to Nacho Varga...
Posted on 3/31/15 at 6:00 am to MikeyFL
I missed the first contact with HHM about working on the case together. Did they promise Jimmy a job working there if he brought in the case?
If not, I don't really get all his anger at Hamlin. Lots of lawyers work together on big cases without one hiring the other. I think the logical thing was for him to negotiate the terms, not throw a fit if being hired is not one of them.
If not, I don't really get all his anger at Hamlin. Lots of lawyers work together on big cases without one hiring the other. I think the logical thing was for him to negotiate the terms, not throw a fit if being hired is not one of them.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 6:18 am to Methuselah
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I missed the first contact with HHM about working on the case together. Did they promise Jimmy a job working there if he brought in the case? If not, I don't really get all his anger at Hamlin. Lots of lawyers work together on big cases without one hiring the other. I think the logical thing was for him to negotiate the terms, not throw a fit if being hired is not one of them.
He has always wanted to work there and judging by Chucks reaction in the conference room it's apparent he had led Jimmy to believe he would be allowed.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 7:17 am to Martini
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He has always wanted to work there and judging by Chucks reaction in the conference room it's apparent he had led Jimmy to believe he would be allowed.
When Jimmy first told Chuck he passed the bar exam and wanted to stay there as an attorney, Chuck said "Sure, but it wasn't totally up to him...he had partners" (or something close to that).
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:07 am to musick
Yet another solid episode. This is going to be a great series.. 
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:17 am to Das Jackal
It's just amazing how enjoyable my Monday nights have become since BCS premiered. We finally see how Ignacio will be tied back into the storyline, Chuck is a tPOS (so is Howard Hamlin), Kim seems to be taking the high road in hopes of becoming partner since she was so close as she's mentioned a few episodes back.
And 9 episodes into season 1, I still feel hurt for ol' Slippin' Jimmy.
Give this man a break!
And 9 episodes into season 1, I still feel hurt for ol' Slippin' Jimmy.
Give this man a break!Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:18 am to Das Jackal
Hate that there is only 10 episodes this season.
At least we'll get a full 13 episodes next year.
At least we'll get a full 13 episodes next year.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:21 am to MikeyFL
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What's interesting now is how we should view Hamlin. On a rewatch, does he become a fairly sympathetic character?
No, but he's not the bad guy, Chuck has been all along. He's a complete dick. Look at his act when he was "upset" that Hamlin wouldn't bring Jimmy on. Chuck is a pretentious douche. He's the one who spoke up and asked for 20 million, knowing that they would balk and HHM would have a huge case waiting for them. He's not just dicking Jimmy over by not bringing him on, he's screwing him out of tons of money.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:39 am to PortCityTiger24
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He's not just dicking Jimmy over by not bringing him on, he's screwing him out of tons of money.
Chuck's position on the case was actually a realistic approach to the problem. Class Action suits cannot be handled by a "mom and pop" operation...too much paperwork and money needed.
Also, Jimmy was about to put a $2M offer on the table (which you assume he and Chuck would split). If he gets 20% of the legal fees from HHM, he'd get the same $1M just on the first $5M that comes through the door. If they get the whole $20M, Jimmy slips away with $4M...plus the $20K.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 8:39 am
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:43 am to adono
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Chuck's position on the case was actually a realistic approach to the problem
They were willing to settle. Chuck says F that noise and asks for 20 mil. Chuch saw $ signs and more importantly a big splash to bring to his law firm. He knew what he was going to do going into that meeting.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:53 am to PortCityTiger24
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They were willing to settle. Chuck says F that noise and asks for 20 mil. Chuch saw $ signs and more importantly a big splash to bring to his law firm. He knew what he was going to do going into that meeting.
They were willing to settle for $100,000; we don't know how much more they were willing to put on the table. I agree Chuck had HHM in mind the whole time, but a case of that type would require a large firm to handle it. An attorney who is familiar with Class Actions (with a RICO kicker) knows the value of a case.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:58 am to adono
I dont know if he was playing a little dumb in the interview but Chuck also said the 20 million part after he heard that the company has 12 different centers in multiple states. Seems like something he might/should have known, but that was his reasoning to Jimmy when the other lawyer team left.
The ball could have already been rolling for him to screw his brother over but it could have gone into overdrive with that revelation of how big the company is
The ball could have already been rolling for him to screw his brother over but it could have gone into overdrive with that revelation of how big the company is
Posted on 3/31/15 at 8:59 am to adono
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They were willing to settle for $100,000; we don't know how much more they were willing to put on the table.
Read between the lines. They brought up 100k, Jimmy told them about the paper trail in Nebraska, they huddled up and seemed confident that they could reach a deal until Chuck brought up the 20 million. You saw Jimmy's first reaction was to say WTF to Chuck. We know now why Chuck did what he did. He is a POS.
Saul will become the type of attorney that has has a bad reputation, but the big firms will come out looking worse as the series goes on.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:31 am to adono
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Chuck's position on the case was actually a realistic approach to the problem. Class Action suits cannot be handled by a "mom and pop" operation...too much paperwork and money needed.
Also, Jimmy was about to put a $2M offer on the table (which you assume he and Chuck would split). If he gets 20% of the legal fees from HHM, he'd get the same $1M just on the first $5M that comes through the door. If they get the whole $20M, Jimmy slips away with $4M...plus the $20K.
Yeah. And I think Jimmy kind of recognizes that. Didn't he say he would take the deal after all (though that was right before revealing to Chuck that he knew so who knows if he was serious).
Jimmy's ace card right now is that (hopefully) the contracts that there are should be in his name. Granted that's likely a small part of the total pool of plaintiffs. And in Class Actions, the Judge has a lot of power regarding attorneys fees. So he could still get screwed. It really would be smart of him to get an agreement from HHM in writing.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 9:37 am to Methuselah
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:44 am to MasCervezas
Did anyone else notice that the business card in the urinal during the theme song read "Better Call Saul"? Not sure if it means anything, but I thought it was interesting because it may foreshadow his transformation into Saul.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:17 am to Methuselah
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It really would be smart of him to get an agreement from HHM in writing.
Pretty sure he is that smart, after all he figured out it was Chuck and not Hamlin who was really screwing him over from a job at HHM. It was always Chuck from the beginning, after all if Chuck had really wanted to hire Jimmy at the firm there was not much of a way for Hamlin to stop him. I'm guessing Jimmy does take the deal and the initial 20k( or was it 40) up front is a large part of how he got his cheesy office built and his pretty sweet circa 90's "LWYRUP" deville.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 11:22 am
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