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Woz: The Future of AI Is 'Scary and Very Bad for People'
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:27 pm
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We should all be getting a litttttle nervous: The robot apocalypse is brewing.
Or at least, that's what a growing number of tech visionaries are predicting. In an interview with the The Australian Financial Review, Apple co-founder and programming whiz Steve Wozniak added his own grave predictions about artificial intelligence's detrimental impact on the future of humanity to warnings from the likes of Elon Musk, Bill Gates and Stephen Hawking.
"Computers are going to take over from humans, no question," he told the outlet. Recent technological advancements have convinced him that writer Raymond Kurzweil – who believes machine intelligence will surpass human intelligence within the next few decades – is onto something.
"Like people including Stephen Hawking and Elon Musk have predicted, I agree that the future is scary and very bad for people," he said. "If we build these devices to take care of everything for us, eventually they'll think faster than us and they'll get rid of the slow humans to run companies more efficiently."
Musk, the CEO of Tesla, has been the most vocal about his concerns about AI, calling it the "biggest existential threat" to mankind. He is an investor in DeepMind and Vicarious, two AI ventures, but “it’s not from the standpoint of actually trying to make any investment return," he said last summer. "I like to just keep an eye on what’s going on…nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition,” Musk said. “But you have to be careful.”
Meanwhile, in a Reddit 'Ask Me Anything' Bill Gates voiced similar reservations: "I agree with Elon Musk and some others on this and don't understand why some people are not concerned," he wrote. Similarly, physicist Stephen Hawking has warned that AI could eventually "take off on its own." It's a scenario that doesn't bode well for our future as a species: "Humans, who are limited by slow biological evolution, couldn't compete, and would be superseded," he said.
Worried yet? Wozniak is.
"Will we be the gods? Will we be the family pets? Or will we be ants that get stepped on? I don't know about that …"
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Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:31 pm to Jim Rockford
The thing is even if AI got incredibly intelligent tomorrow that they could truly replicate themselves, they still need humans to maintain and build their successors. It is worth consideration, but I think that it would take quite some time even after Singularity that they could live in a world without humans. So long as we hold this over them, I don't think they will attack us, and we must merge with them before they can reach this point. If technological singularity happened today, they could not afford to kill or enslave us.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:39 pm to Jim Rockford
We made them.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:41 pm to Jim Rockford
Isn't Steve Wozniak a certified nut at this point?
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:42 pm to Jim Rockford
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"If we build these devices to take care of everything for us, eventually they'll think faster than us and they'll get rid of the slow humans to run companies more efficiently."
Sounds like a plan.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:42 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:45 pm to Jim Rockford
If it gets that bad, we can set off an EMP blast and start anew.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:45 pm to Jim Rockford
WALL-E > Obama
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:05 am to Jim Rockford
For all the zombie craze in movies and TV lately and aliens in media and conspiracy theory and history channel, AI really is the only real threat to mankind. It's scary to think that machines may label us as obsolete once they reach a certain point of technology. And the real issue is how far can you push technology without it being too far? We all want to become more advanced, but it appears that may eventually be our downfall
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:10 am to Jim Rockford
I mean, if the machines did revolt and start killing people an EMP to the face would solve that pretty quickly. I don't know about yall, but a life with no technology wouldn't be too bad.
Only thing about an EMP is it would take all the fun out of a robot zombie apocalypse. Think Walking Dead but with robots instead of walkers.
Only thing about an EMP is it would take all the fun out of a robot zombie apocalypse. Think Walking Dead but with robots instead of walkers.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:10 am to Jim Rockford
I mean, if the machines did revolt and start killing people an EMP to the face would solve that pretty quickly. I don't know about yall, but a life with no technology wouldn't be too bad.
Only thing about an EMP is it would take all the fun out of a robot zombie apocalypse. Think Walking Dead but with robots instead of walkers.
Only thing about an EMP is it would take all the fun out of a robot zombie apocalypse. Think Walking Dead but with robots instead of walkers.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:15 am to Upperdecker
I keep hearing more and more about this and the thing that I always get hung up on is that the robots, or whatever, would have to have their own desires to take over the world. Almost like emotions. Until then, a machine can only do what it's programmed to do. You'd have to have machines so advanced that they'd be able to create more robots, as well as have some kind of physical mobility. I just think we would have a plan set up before we get anywhere close to some irobot shite. Technology is advancing at an astounding rate, but we don't even understand how our own brains work, how could we design an AI that is even more advanced than that?
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:18 am to Grim
Keep in mind that 10 years ago we didn't even have smart phones. I feel like anything is possible.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:10 am to Jim Rockford
If robots take over the jobs, who's going to be the consumers of the businesses that the robots run if humans get their jobs taken away by AI and don't have any money to spend?
I know certain places like Popeyes, Burger King, and Walmart need these things to work for them. They suck at customer service.
I know certain places like Popeyes, Burger King, and Walmart need these things to work for them. They suck at customer service.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:33 am to Jim Rockford
Chappie
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:40 am to Jim Rockford
Dammit. I don't even care that much about my smartphone, can we please just calm the frick down with this technology stuff?
Posted on 3/24/15 at 2:29 am to Jim Rockford
My question in all of this is how can society sustain itself when AI takes over white collar and blue collar jobs when unemployment skyrockets to 20 - 30% and beyond? High taxes on businesses to support the skilled workers through welfare who are being pushed out of jobs for a machine?
Posted on 3/24/15 at 2:44 am to BowlJackson
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I mean, if the machines did revolt and start killing people an EMP to the face would solve that pretty quickly.
Who is to say that humans at that point would have access to create EMP weapons on a massive scale?
By the time AI takes over, it'll already be in control of supplies and manufacturing. Robots will have countless ways to kill massive amounts of humans quickly and easily and we'll be scrambling to create makeshift EMP weapons.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 3:58 am to efrad
And there would be no place to blast; there would be backups everywhere and rebuilding would be simple. Most people cannot grasp what a true AI could do with all the networked items in the world and advances in technology. It's truly terrifying.
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