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re: When would you say the initial decline in music began?
Posted on 3/21/15 at 10:08 pm to Tunasntigers92
Posted on 3/21/15 at 10:08 pm to Tunasntigers92
when rap
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Posted on 3/22/15 at 12:44 am to Kafka
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Kafka
Posted on 3/23/15 at 5:16 pm to Tunasntigers92
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Go drink a beer and roll some smoke my man, you seem like a miserable individual.
Says the guy who thinks music sucks.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 5:20 pm to kingbob
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In my personal opinion, a person recording original electronica is not a musician unless they pick up an instrument, but they are a composer.
This is a moronic distinction.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 5:36 pm to SystemsGo
So says the asswipe that likes awolnation lol.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 3/24/15 at 6:20 pm to Tunasntigers92
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So says the asswipe that likes awolnation lol.
I absolutely do like Awolnation. For the time being their new album is all I need.
Asswipe I can handle. Miserable curmudgeon I'd rather avoid. Your mileage may vary.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 6:44 pm to Tunasntigers92
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When would you say the initial decline in music began?
If you are old enough, you might consider the late '70's and the disco movement as an answer.
Or, if you are older still, the late '50's when the original R&B was cleaned up and marketed for mass white audience consumption.
When I was born Ike was president. I don't like most the music I hear on the radio nowadays...not enough soul or creativity. I wish that I could just tune in on the radio dial to hear good, new asskicking music...but with Sirius I can still trip back to whatever genre I'm in the mood for.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 7:19 pm to SystemsGo
Miserable individual* not curmudgeon.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 11:53 pm to Tunasntigers92
The "decline" for me began somewhere around the mid 80's. Don't get me wrong there was and has always been good music to be found, but for me the major problem is simply the lack of talented musicians, singers, writers and producers. I began noticing the lack of guitar solos in alternative music in the early 80's which sent up a red flag for me.
That was followed by the drum machine, which was followed by midi which was followed by Pro Tools and thus the death of producers needing to hire the most talented musicians and singers in the studio.
Britney Spears freely admits that she lip-syncs in concert and her "music" still goes to the top of the charts. Rap artists freely sampled Clyde Stubblefield beats off James Brown records, which was followed by the sampling of Benard Edwards bass lines off Chic records, which was followed by the sampling of complete songs.
I think you can get the picture. Each generation loses the ability to play, write, sing and produce without the aid of technology, which equals the downfall.
That was followed by the drum machine, which was followed by midi which was followed by Pro Tools and thus the death of producers needing to hire the most talented musicians and singers in the studio.
Britney Spears freely admits that she lip-syncs in concert and her "music" still goes to the top of the charts. Rap artists freely sampled Clyde Stubblefield beats off James Brown records, which was followed by the sampling of Benard Edwards bass lines off Chic records, which was followed by the sampling of complete songs.
I think you can get the picture. Each generation loses the ability to play, write, sing and produce without the aid of technology, which equals the downfall.
This post was edited on 3/24/15 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 3/25/15 at 12:05 am to geauxbrown
I completely agree with your assessment, great music is still out there, just tougher to find now.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 1:41 am to geauxbrown
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That was followed by the drum machine, which was followed by midi which was followed by Pro Tools and thus the death of producers needing to hire the most talented musicians and singers in the studio.
Truth
Posted on 3/25/15 at 7:08 am to Tunasntigers92
When the music (especially mainstream) industry became all cookie cutter. Label 'A' has a group, so Labels 'B','C','D', etc.." have to go find or create a group that sounds just like the group Label 'A' has since that group made Label 'A' a truckload of money. It was around before but really became prevalent in pop music in the 90's with the groups like N'SYNC, Backstreet Boys, 98 Degrees as an example. It then began spreading to rock with the advent of cliché rock such as Nickelback, Theory of a Deadman, Saving Abel, etc. it has also permeated every other genre of music. There is almost no artistry and individuality in music anymore.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:12 am to DannyB
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When the music (especially mainstream) industry became all cookie cutter. Label 'A' has a group, so Labels 'B','C','D', etc.." have to go find or create a group that sounds just like the group Label 'A' has since that group made Label 'A' a truckload of money. It was around before but really became prevalent in pop music in the 90's with the groups like N'SYNC, Backstreet Boys, 98 Degrees as an example. It then began spreading to rock with the advent of cliché rock such as Nickelback, Theory of a Deadman, Saving Abel, etc. it has also permeated every other genre of music. There is almost no artistry and individuality in music anymore.
I was going to reply to this and then I saw that pic of Katy Perry..........
Posted on 3/25/15 at 1:06 pm to DannyB
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When the music (especially mainstream) industry became all cookie cutter. Label 'A' has a group, so Labels 'B','C','D', etc.." have to go find or create a group that sounds just like the group Label 'A' has since that group made Label 'A' a truckload of money. It was around before but really became prevalent in pop music in the 90's with the groups like N'SYNC, Backstreet Boys, 98 Degrees as an example. It then began spreading to rock with the advent of cliché rock such as Nickelback, Theory of a Deadman, Saving Abel, etc. it has also permeated every other genre of music. There is almost no artistry and individuality in music anymore.
go look at the billboard charts #1 hits from the 50's to now
Posted on 3/25/15 at 1:15 pm to LucasP
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"Whenever I turned 21" is the correct answer. You just don't like new stuff as much after a certain age, scientist attribute it to your soul slowly beginning to die at the end of youth.
I don't know. I'm going to be 42 and with the power of the internet, Pandora, and such I have discovered and re-discovered music from my formative years as a teen and through college, much if which I never listened to during that point in my life. Why am I picking up this music now? It was created 20 some years ago but it is new to me, meaning I don't have any sentimental attachment to the song when I hear it that takes me back to those "glory years".
I'm all over the place anymore but very recently I have been listening to alot of older punk rock, Rancid is up high on the playlist, so is Social Distortion, Bad Religion, Operation Ivy, and NOFX. I'm also listening to alot of Phish, I never listened to Phish before, and they were really getting into their haydays when I was in college.
My only explanation for me picking up this old music that is new to me is because it is good, quality music, and for one reason or another I missed it the first time around, probably because I was into something else at the time. probably hair metal, then grunge, then, well I got a career and pretty mcuh quit listenign to music unless it was on the radio and even then I didn't listen to the radio much.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 1:26 pm to SoDakHawk
Kid Rock is legendary up here in South Dakota for some of the concerts he put on out in Sturgis during the Black Hills Rally. I've heard his shows are some of the best.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 1:32 pm to DannyB
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When the music (especially mainstream) industry became all cookie cutter. Label 'A' has a group, so Labels 'B','C','D', etc.." h
lol dude, this has been happening since the invention of the radio, and no periods more prevalent of this than the '50s and '60s.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 1:51 pm to SystemsGo
quote:It's spot on.
In my personal opinion, a person recording original electronica is not a musician unless they pick up an instrument, but they are a composer.
This is a moronic distinction.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 1:55 pm to AlxTgr
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It's spot on.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 1:55 pm to Andre
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