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Posted on 3/9/15 at 3:24 pm
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 3:24 pm
[quote]Evan Woodbery ?@TheSaintsBeat 9m9 minutes ago #Saints 2015 salary cap estimate updated: Now only $4.56M over *not* including Colston paycut or Galette conversion LINK ]

So roughly 4 mil now

How much would ditching hawthorne/bush get back?
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 3:25 pm to
is that including bunkley's 3mil?

Hawthorne 3mil, Bush 2mil
This post was edited on 3/9/15 at 3:26 pm
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 3:28 pm to
I'd imagine so

I'll try to do some digging but I believe that's the case.

quote:

Hawthorne 3mil, Bush 2mil


Thanks

Makes sense they're on the block. White likely gone too imo.

Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 3:31 pm to
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 3:32 pm to
Surprising that Goodwin, Evans, and Grubbs all seem to be safe for now.
Posted by ATLienTiger
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 3:34 pm to
That had better not be 3/5ths of our Oline come next season.
Posted by mm2316
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

Goodwin,

Isn't he a UFA?
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 3:36 pm to
Likely new center and a guard

Grubbs(my prediction)/Armstead/Streif

Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 3:39 pm to
That may be.
I'm not sure.

Edit : you're right, he's a FA (my favorite) this year.
This post was edited on 3/9/15 at 3:41 pm
Posted by burke985
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 3:56 pm to
Now brees restructure and give us life
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

Now brees restructure and give us life


No reason to do it this year
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 4:04 pm to
So Graham is restructured already? nothing official yet, is that Woodberry's predictions?
This post was edited on 3/9/15 at 4:05 pm
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

Black & Gold Review ?@BnGreview 34m34 minutes ago The Saints are in all likelihood UNDER THE CAP right now, post-Lofton/colston. Yet they're still looking to trade/cut half the D.


quote:

Black & Gold Review ?@BnGreview 32m32 minutes ago The Saints aren't just getting under the cap. They're getting far enough under to perform a major overhaul on D.


quote:

Mike Triplett ?@MikeTriplett 40m40 minutes ago ... Makes me wonder even more if #Saints are heading toward a widespread overhaul after 7-9 season. We'll know soon with more moves to make.


Interesting
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 4:12 pm to
OTC is the most accurate in terms of contract details that have been announced.

Currently, we're 14.2mil over (without calculating some potential moves that are guaranteed to happen).

1. Bunkley 2.85mil savings (pay cut)
2. Graham 3.33mil savings (restructure)
3. Hawthorne 2.99mil savings (cut/trade)
4. Bush 1.95mil savings (cut/trade)

That means we're currently sitting at 3.08mil over the cap.
Moves that are pending:
1. Jahri Evans cut/pay cut (6.0mil savings)
2. Marques colston pay cut (Agreed, but numbers have not shown. I believe its ~3.0mil)

Those two happen, it'd be ~5.92mil under

Moves that are possible:
1. Ben Grubbs cut/pay cut (3.6mil savings)
2. Ben Watson cut (1.5mil savings) -> I honestly don't think this happens, but it is a number that you can watch
3. Corey White cut (1.542mil savings)
4. Junior Galette restructure/trade (R: saves 10.404 mi, T: saves 11.75mil)

Potentially: 22.966-24.312mil under.
Posted by Seeker
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 4:14 pm to
What about Byrd's restructure?
Posted by The Pain Train
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

quote:
Black & Gold Review ?@BnGreview 32m32 minutes ago The Saints aren't just getting under the cap. They're getting far enough under to perform a major overhaul on D.



Posted by ffhouston
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 4:20 pm to
I honestly think a "widespread overhaul" is the only way to go. Look, we (and by "we", I'm including the Saints organization) all thought this team was a real contender entering last year, and found out the hard way that they're not.

So, if you buy the premise that you need a plus-player at the QB position in today's NFL to win a title (and I think you do), then retaining an offensive skill position core, refreshing the OL, and declaring open season on the defensive side of the ball makes sense if you think you have 2 years (maybe more, if his deal gets extended or reupped)of Brees being an above-average QB.

A big reshuffling on D in 2015, with the hope you're taking multiple steps forward prior to 2017. If you're not positioning yourself to be a true contender, then there's no point in paying Brees and Graham all that cheddar in the first place.
Posted by LSUlefty
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

Surprising that Goodwin, Evans, and Grubbs all seem to be safe for now.


so am I. They were just as bad as the secondary last year. We'll, almost.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 4:24 pm to
Not sure where NOLA.com is getting their numbers. The only have $2 million in dead money for Lofton. Unless he was designated a post - June 1 cut, he has $5 million in dead money.
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

What about Byrd's restructure?



has been calculated in already, via overthecap
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