- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Explain why drugs and prostitution should be illegal
Posted on 3/6/15 at 2:11 pm to TheCaterpillar
Posted on 3/6/15 at 2:11 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:
I think we should separate weed out of this conversation. People are resorting to lives of crime and burglary to support their weed habit
Exactly. And someone can be a regular weed smoker/consumer and still be a perfectly normal, fully functional member of society. That's not the case with people on things like meth or crack. Hard drugs destroy the lives of those who get addicted to them. About the worst thing that happens to someone who uses pot on a regular basis is their cholesterol might go through the roof due to all the potato chips they're eating at night.
1
Posted on 3/6/15 at 2:12 pm to kingbob
quote:
Clearly, we should ban Les Miles from running an offense in the interest of public health.
WHERE THE frick DO I SIGN?!?!?!
Posted on 3/6/15 at 2:13 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:
Most people in the country agree weed should be legal. Its just a matter of time.
I think most people, if they were being truly honest, would say prostitution should be legal and regulated as well.
Hard drugs are a different story. I don't think the manufacture and distribution should be legal. In fact, I think the penalties for those crimes should be more severe.
However, I don't think being an addict and/or being busted buying/using personal amounts of hard drugs should result in prison sentences. Those people need help, not incarceration and their life ruined.
I agree 100% with all this.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 2:14 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:
Clearly, we should ban Les Miles from running an offense in the interest of public health.
WHERE THE frick DO I SIGN?!?!?!
I want the record to show that as an Auburn fan I am 100% against this measure.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 2:16 pm to Darth_Vader
Don't worry, away games are in the jurisdiction of other states. Our "Les Laws" would be null and void there.
Home games you fricked. Away games we fricked.
Home games you fricked. Away games we fricked.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 2:18 pm to uway
quote:
A useful thought experiment is to imagine that civilization crashed and burned leaving only a few hundred survivors that split into two groups. The first group formed a purely libertarian society. The second group formed a society similar to ours, with laws that sometimes infringed on what people could do (though hopefully far fewer of these laws than we now have), and the vast majority of the people agreed with the laws because thy believed the laws would help to create a good living environment.
Would it be right for someone to leave the libertarian group, go to the other, and start railing against the hypocrisy of the laws and demanding the freedom to live there and do whatever he wanted?
Is it right for a person from a free society to give his views to a less free society? I would say absolutely. Essentially your saying its wrong to hope for freedom in less free places, like say North Korea, because what they have now keeps them safe. Every dictator, ever, has made this argument.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 2:21 pm to kingbob
quote:
Because they can't get jobs.
Wrong. It's because they can't hold a job. Yes, having a conviction does make it more difficult. But many addicts (those who want a job) will get and lose more jobs in a couple of years than you will likely have in your lifetime.
Also, most drug users don't only harm themselves. They are out committing other crimes to support their habit.
I don't understand the "make it legal but then try to get people to not use it" crowd. That makes no sense. I do understand the "keep it illegal, but make the focus more on treatment than punishment," crowd.
Legalizing it doesn't help you keep people off of it. We have enough trouble doing that as it is. Making it legal isn't going to cure that. "Oh look, it's legal so now people can buy it at Albertson's and they can keep their jobs so they can afford it and everything is great now."
Posted on 3/6/15 at 2:25 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:
Don't worry, away games are in the jurisdiction of other states. Our "Les Laws" would be null and void there.
Home games you fricked. Away games we fricked.
OK. But I propose a one year moratorium on this law since Auburn has to travel to Death Valley this season.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 3:56 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Most people in the country agree weed should be legal. Its just a matter of time.
I think most people, if they were being truly honest, would say prostitution should be legal and regulated as well.
Hard drugs are a different story. I don't think the manufacture and distribution should be legal. In fact, I think the penalties for those crimes should be more severe.
However, I don't think being an addict and/or being busted buying/using personal amounts of hard drugs should result in prison sentences. Those people need help, not incarceration and their life ruined.
What all do you consider to be hard drugs? Would MDMA, LSD, Ayahuasca, DMT, and mushrooms be considered hard? What about cocaine? It's amazing how many doctors, dentists, bankers, attorneys, pilots, politicians, engineers, and tech nerds partake in blow/Molly/acid on a regular basis in the Bay Area. Somehow these people at the top of their professions still manage to function week in and week out.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 4:06 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:
This is one of the main reasons legalizing "hard" drugs would do nothing to reduce drug crime. Think about it, let's say they make meth or crack legal. You can go down to the local liquor/drug store and buy all you want. Well, you've still got to have the money to buy it. and how many meth or crack junkies are going to be able to hold down a job that will both support them and support their drug habit? Those addicts are still going to have to resort to whatever they can, usually crime, to get the money to support their habit.
That is not true at all. If they truly legalized all drugs an addict could get his fix for about $1 a day, certainly under $5 a day.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 4:11 pm to OFWHAP
quote:
It's amazing how many doctors, dentists, bankers, attorneys, pilots, politicians, engineers, and tech nerds partake in blow/Molly/acid on a regular basis in the Bay Area
I was with you until pilots, they get randomly tested often and if they were doing blow on a regular basis they wouldn't be a pilot for long.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 4:24 pm to lsu480
quote:
quote:
It's amazing how many doctors, dentists, bankers, attorneys, pilots, politicians, engineers, and tech nerds partake in blow/Molly/acid on a regular basis in the Bay Area
I was with you until pilots, they get randomly tested often and if they were doing blow on a regular basis they wouldn't be a pilot for long.
The pilots I know are with Net Jets. I think they're more into Shrooms, which I don't think show up in screenings if I'm not mistaken. I do know that they are heavily involved with the Burning Man scene. I still stand by what I said for the other professions.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 4:36 pm to OFWHAP
I agree with you that the others do all kinds of drugs regularly, and I am sure pilots do drugs when they have extended vacations but I just wouldn't say they do them regularly. To be regularly is once a week or more.
Posted on 3/6/15 at 5:36 pm to OFWHAP
quote:
What all do you consider to be hard drugs? Would MDMA, LSD, Ayahuasca, DMT, and mushrooms be considered hard? What about cocaine? It's amazing how many doctors, dentists, bankers, attorneys, pilots, politicians, engineers, and tech nerds partake in blow/Molly/acid on a regular basis in the Bay Area. Somehow these people at the top of their professions still manage to function week in and week out.
And I partake as well.
I would limit hard drug manufacturing/smuggling/distribution enforcement to those drugs considered incredibly addictive and destructive such as heroin, crack, and meth.
ETA:
FWIW, because successful people do something isn't a good reason to legalize, maybe you should pick a different argument. And I don't think drug use should be illegal and I'm very clear on that. Users shouldn't be considered criminals.
I'm not sure you know what I was arguing.
This post was edited on 3/6/15 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 7/29/23 at 11:12 am to Jcorye1
True
Posted on 7/29/23 at 11:15 am to magildachunks
Because they may both involve blowing chunks.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 11:16 am to johnjay
quote:
Also, most drug users don't only harm themselves. They are out committing other crimes to support their habit.
Then deal with the crimes, put them in prison.
The more people die from drugs, the fewer weak people you will have to care for with your tax dollar.
I have no issue letting people deal with the consequences of their choosing.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 11:18 am to Ryan3232
Good to know I was fighting the good fight 8 years ago.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 11:20 am to Jcorye1
quote:
they could be out working to pay for their habit.
How many junkies on the street do you think put in a solid 40 hour work week to pay for their habit?
Posted on 7/29/23 at 11:21 am to Darth_Vader
quote:
That's not the case with people on things like meth or crack. Hard drugs destroy the lives of those who get addicted to them
I'm fine with that.
Our issue is coddling these people, not letting them die.
Stop coddling, let nature do its thing.
Page 8 of 10
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News