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re: Time to sit Asik
Posted on 3/4/15 at 10:58 pm to GynoSandberg
Posted on 3/4/15 at 10:58 pm to GynoSandberg
What could have been.... Freaking Minnesota.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 11:00 pm to LosLobos111
What's tiring is watching game after game he can't get to a rebound if the is another defender going for the same rebound. Asik may get his hands on it, but bet cha arse is getting stripped. Asik receives a pass for a put in, 80% stripped while he's throws his hands up looking for the foul.
He gets moved too easy for being 7' 255lbs.
Now I ain't totally hating. He does mone his feet well and knows how to use his body. He has the perfect starting 5 look. EXCEPT, he can't catch the ball .. When he does catch the ball, he holds it too low that it's IS getting stripped. Now if it doesn't get stripped, then you have to deal with his shot being blocked, by a defender, or the rim. Asik cannot jump two telephone books.
I get that they're not many options out there as far a centers go. We swung and missed with asik. I. think the staff realize that, That's the reason he spends most of the 4th qtr on the bench. They don't trust him. First it was Ryan getting most of the minutes, now it's Alexi.
He gets moved too easy for being 7' 255lbs.
Now I ain't totally hating. He does mone his feet well and knows how to use his body. He has the perfect starting 5 look. EXCEPT, he can't catch the ball .. When he does catch the ball, he holds it too low that it's IS getting stripped. Now if it doesn't get stripped, then you have to deal with his shot being blocked, by a defender, or the rim. Asik cannot jump two telephone books.
I get that they're not many options out there as far a centers go. We swung and missed with asik. I. think the staff realize that, That's the reason he spends most of the 4th qtr on the bench. They don't trust him. First it was Ryan getting most of the minutes, now it's Alexi.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 11:07 pm to Gtothemoney
How many games has 4th quarter defensive collapses costed us wins? A lot. You brought him to be an anchor and you don't use him, that's on coaching.
He is an offensive black hole but more often than not, it's tyreke abandoning a shot too deep or badly timed passes. He does hold it too low, he does have soft hands, but half the time it's not his fault. This is why having a 3&d sf would make this team a lot better than ajinca/ryno, you have an offensive threat so asik can finish games as opposed to cunningham.
He is an offensive black hole but more often than not, it's tyreke abandoning a shot too deep or badly timed passes. He does hold it too low, he does have soft hands, but half the time it's not his fault. This is why having a 3&d sf would make this team a lot better than ajinca/ryno, you have an offensive threat so asik can finish games as opposed to cunningham.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 2:48 am to Gtothemoney
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Lol. Dude had a handful of good games the whole season.
Ajinca probably had much more good games this season than Asik has had. That being said, Asik is better on defense and occasionally has a decent offensive game on his standards. I just wish he wasn't such a tard on offense, and I also wish he was a bit more athletic. Good thing about Ajinca is that he has a decent jumper, can make free throws, move around much quicker, etc. Only thing Asik is better at is rebounding and defense.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 7:11 am to sma19
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yeah he's 13th in the league in rebounding cause he's tall and lucky
Posted on 3/5/15 at 7:39 am to KindaRaw
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Only thing Asik is better at is rebounding and defense.
Which is exactly what he was brought here to do.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 7:40 am to tigerbait3488
OP- shut up and go back to the rant baw. Asik is fine
Posted on 3/5/15 at 8:00 am to chesty
the dude is always fighting for RBs. Many times he is the reason other Pels get RBs bc he is occupying the opponents with really effective box outs.
Asik is in no way a lucky rebounder.
Asik is in no way a lucky rebounder.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 8:45 am to Gtothemoney
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Asik receives a pass for a put in, 80% stripped while he's throws his hands up looking for the foul.
#analytics
Posted on 3/5/15 at 8:47 am to KindaRaw
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Only thing Asik is better at is rebounding and defense.
So over 50% of the game? Yeah, probably not important.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:07 am to NorthshoreTiger76
If Asiks offense was as good as his defense, and his defense was as good as his offense, people would love the guy. Just because he isn't good offensively doesn't mean Ajinca is a better option, especially with what the team wants out of it's center.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:34 am to CP3forMVP
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If Asiks offense was as good as his defense, and his defense was as good as his offense, people would love the guy. Just because he isn't good offensively doesn't mean Ajinca is a better option, especially with what the team wants out of it's center.
This is pretty dead on and a great way of putting it.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 9:53 am to ShamelessPel
The Asik love on here is sickening.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 10:33 am to chatchit42
the random influx of posters who come in with claims based on negative opinions and no real substantial data is sickening. He does what he is supposed to, Rebound, take up space, help create and be a good team mate.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 11:10 am to chesty
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the random influx of posters who come in with claims based on negative opinions and no real substantial data is sickening.
No need to be naive, Chesty. You cant honestly say he is our best option at the price he's being paid. He is a backup center at best. Being a space-eater, a 7 footer who (gasps) rebounds, and a good teammate sounds eerily similar to a center who should be paid half of what he's paid and come off the bench. You dont need stats to tell you that.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 11:15 am to chatchit42
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Being a space-eater, a 7 footer who (gasps) rebounds, and a good teammate sounds eerily similar to a center who should be paid half of what he's paid and come off the bench. You dont need stats to tell you that.
Nice spin, how about this
He is a starting caliber center who has offensive problems but is consistently a top defensive rebounder and (this is more on monty imo) a slightly above average defensive player, formerly an elite defensive player.
Name a bench big with that resume
better yet, name all of the big men that get paid less than Asik (8 mil) that we could have
Posted on 3/5/15 at 12:09 pm to sma19
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better yet, name all of the big men that get paid less than Asik (8 mil) that we could have
1. Hassan Whiteside: 11.1 ppg/10.1 reb/2.5 bpg
2. Nikola Vucevic: 19.7 ppg/11.2 rpg/0.8 bpg
3. Jonas Valanciunas:12.1 ppg/8.7 rpg/1.1 bpg
4. Taj Gibson: 12.1 ppg/6.6 rpg/1.2 bpg
5. Kelly Olynyk: 10.8 ppg/5.3 rpg/0.7 bpg
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Name a bench big with that resume
If given the minutes Asik is given:
Ian Mahinmi
4.8 ppg/6.1 rpg/0.6 bpg
All these guys are on cheaper contracts and, based on what I've seen, are better Centers than the neanderthal we have.
Posted on 3/5/15 at 12:23 pm to chatchit42
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1. Hassan Whiteside: 11.1 ppg/10.1 reb/2.5 bpg
2. Nikola Vucevic: 19.7 ppg/11.2 rpg/0.8 bpg
3. Jonas Valanciunas:12.1 ppg/8.7 rpg/1.1 bpg
4. Taj Gibson: 12.1 ppg/6.6 rpg/1.2 bpg
5. Kelly Olynyk: 10.8 ppg/5.3 rpg/0.7 bpg
All of those guys are unavailable unless we gave up a ton. Gibson isn't a center and will make just slightly less than what asik will make.
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Ian Mahinmi
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All these guys are on cheaper contracts and, based on what I've seen, are better Centers than the neanderthal we have.
Vucevic is about to get paid big time
Val isn't great defensively at all
Gibson isn't a center
Whiteside will have 1 year of cheap production but his stats don't translate to wins.
Olynyk is decent
Posted on 3/5/15 at 12:49 pm to LosLobos111
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Vucevic is about to get paid big time
Already on a 5 yr deal at 2.7 mil/yr
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Val isn't great defensively at all
Yet he avg's more blocked shots than Asik (who is deemed as a rim protector)
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Gibson isn't a center
I know this, but he's a PF that can play the center position like AD and be efficient in doing so.
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Whiteside will have 1 year of cheap production but his stats don't translate to wins.
Is this premise based off of former 1 year wonders?
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Ian Mahinmi
Why not?
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