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Posted on 3/4/15 at 10:43 am to TIGRLEE
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I can think of one way their lives could get fricked up worse.
But hey... Cnn/fox/old people rabble rabble Derp rabble I'm too cool blah blah blah
You can always imagine the terrible, it's easy...I guess it's harder to be a thinking adult able to assess a risk as practically nil.
And Dobson is factually wrong per the statistics...so the blogger and you are basing your fear off a factually incorrect comment.
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 10:45 am
Posted on 3/4/15 at 10:50 am to Y.A. Tittle
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normal childhood
Seems this is the whole point of what guy is trying to protect.
I'm not so sure if I'm totally against it like the author is....but above and beyond discretion isn't overdoing it.
But like I said, it's your kid.
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 10:51 am
Posted on 3/4/15 at 10:54 am to TIGRLEE
quote:Anyone who believes this is an absolute moron.
Pedophiles and child molesters are more pervasive than ever.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 10:55 am to TIGRLEE
I agree to some extent. Rather than make the kids pay the tab, its on the parent to work. Think it through and weigh everything, then make a determination. I do agree the timing should be when a child can communicate effectively. AND, I don't care if someone's feelings get hurt, but some are ok and others are not......
ETA: We're lucky. Our 3 little ones are each others' buddy. Twins are a different dynamic.
ETA: We're lucky. Our 3 little ones are each others' buddy. Twins are a different dynamic.
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 10:58 am
Posted on 3/4/15 at 10:56 am to arcalades
I don't think it really matters if it's true or not.
They exist and that's all I or anyone really needs to know.
Who cares if there are more or less... That's not the point.
They exist and that's all I or anyone really needs to know.
Who cares if there are more or less... That's not the point.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 10:56 am to arcalades
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quote: Pedophiles and child molesters are more pervasive than ever.Anyone who believes this is an absolute moron.
Anyone who doesn't is a fricking idiot
Posted on 3/4/15 at 10:57 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Sadly, the world has changed in the last few decades, and it is no longer a safe place for children. Pedophiles and child molesters are more pervasive than ever.
so fricking stupid
perception is not reality
the world is so much safer now for a kid than it was when most of us were growing up (80s and 90s)
Posted on 3/4/15 at 10:58 am to TIGRLEE
Not saying I send my kids on sleepovers with complete strangers, but I don't do a FBI background check on them either.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 10:59 am to TIGRLEE
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I've never thought about it really, mine's in kindergarten and after reading I'm leaning towards the couple's point of view in the link.
It's probably already been said, but you'll relax a little bit when she's older and has proven that she is more aware of her surroundings.
My daughter just had her first sleepover and she's turning 11 next month. But we only do it when we personally know the parents and have a feel for their situation at home.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 11:00 am to ZereauxSum
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But we only do it when we personally know the parents and have a feel for their situation at home.
as should be the case for any responsible parent
Posted on 3/4/15 at 11:04 am to CharlesLSU
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quote: Pedophiles and child molesters are more pervasive than ever.Anyone who believes this is an absolute moron.
Anyone who doesn't is a fricking idiot
Facts be damned!
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According to the nation's top experts, children are actually safer from physical and sexual abuse than they have been for decades. A National Incidence Study of Child Abuse and Neglect issued by the Department of Health and Human Services found that both physical and sexual abuse of children have dropped significantly over the past 20 years: From 2005 to 2006, an estimated 553,000 children suffered physical, sexual or emotional abuse, down 26 percent from the estimated 743,200 abuse victims in 1993. And between 1993 and 2005, the number of sexually abused children dropped 38 percent, while number of children who experienced physical abuse fell by 15 percent and those who were emotionally abused declined by 27 percent.
LINK
Posted on 3/4/15 at 11:06 am to Salmon
Do you all realize how much sexual abuse actually goes on? I'd be willing to bet you the deed to my house that several of the folks that have posted in this thread have either been or had someone very close to them sexually abused. I'm not saying shelter them completely, but lets not be dumb about this. This stuff ROYALLY screws up lives.
ALSO...No one has mentioned, but it doesn't have to be from another child's parent. An older sibling or neighbor could more likely be the culprit. We live in a society that is more sexually perverse than it probably ever has been with incredibly easy access to porn...believe what you want, but too early exposure to this stuff creates sexual perversion.
ALSO...No one has mentioned, but it doesn't have to be from another child's parent. An older sibling or neighbor could more likely be the culprit. We live in a society that is more sexually perverse than it probably ever has been with incredibly easy access to porn...believe what you want, but too early exposure to this stuff creates sexual perversion.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 11:06 am to cwill
Only fact that any parent should be interested in is the fact they still exist.
It's not 1987 anymore.
It's not 1987 anymore.
This post was edited on 3/4/15 at 11:07 am
Posted on 3/4/15 at 11:08 am to AUjim
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ALSO...No one has mentioned, but it doesn't have to be from another child's parent. An older sibling or neighbor could more likely be the culprit. We live in a society that is more sexually perverse than it probably ever has been with incredibly easy access to porn...believe what you want, but too early exposure to this stuff creates sexual perversion.
Good point, I thought about that when I first read the article.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 11:09 am to TIGRLEE
quote:This is simply false, probably by a log shot. Things are much safer now than they used to be. Nevertheless, be careful. Here's some good rules to follow:
Sadly, the world has changed in the last few decades, and it is no longer a safe place for children. Pedophiles and child molesters are more pervasive than ever.
1) Wait until your kids are old enough. That means they are mature enough to handle the freedom, and old enough to have been given enough information and warnings about safety issues.
2) Be sure you know the parents (both parents) fairly well.
3) Until they are upper middle school, don't allow "one kid only" sleep overs. Keep it to the slumber parties with multiple kids.
4) Try to develop good communication with your kids so that they can tell you if they feel uncomfortable. Never force a kid to go to a sleep over.
5) Most sexual abuse is done by a relative, so be sure to also be cautious about uncles and grandpa and older cousins.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 11:10 am to TIGRLEE
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Only fact that any parent should be interested in is the fact they still exist.
of course they exist
but rather than keep your kids locked up in their rooms all the time, why not teach your kids to never be ashamed to tell you something? always keep an open dialogue with them? that if they ever felt uncomfortable anywhere, to always call you, and you will be there?
Posted on 3/4/15 at 11:10 am to TIGRLEE
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It's not 1987 anymore.
That means absolutely nothing.
Being overprotective is just as bad as being underprotective. Overprotected children will not develop problem solving skill. They'll always expect mommy or daddy to be there to take care of them and have all the answers.
It's not just about sleepovers. It's about crossing the street or going to the park or exploring the neighborhood without your supervision. Let them get out on their own a little bit. If you don't then when they turn 18 and leave for college or the real world they won't be able to handle themselves.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 11:10 am to TIGRLEE
The fricking article is based on a fallacy from the book of this James Dobson character. That is the premise, but now, in light of that fallacy you're going to go with the ole "better be safe than sorry" approach.
You should home school you kids then. Also don't ever drive them around in your vehicle...the chances of dying in a car crash (which ROYALLY fricks up their lives) are significantly higher than being molested on a sleepover.
I'm not saying drop your kids off with anyone and not to do basic parental due diligence but to take sleepovers off the table completely is to give into irrational fear.
You should home school you kids then. Also don't ever drive them around in your vehicle...the chances of dying in a car crash (which ROYALLY fricks up their lives) are significantly higher than being molested on a sleepover.
I'm not saying drop your kids off with anyone and not to do basic parental due diligence but to take sleepovers off the table completely is to give into irrational fear.
Posted on 3/4/15 at 11:11 am to AUjim
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ALSO...No one has mentioned, but it doesn't have to be from another child's parent. An older sibling or neighbor could more likely be the culprit.
It's very important to understand who lives in the house and what the dynamics are.
We told our 16 yo niece that she couldn't spend the night at a friends house because mom worked at night and she lived with two adult brothers. We trust her, but we just didn't have a good vibe about it. She probably would have been fine but we said no.
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