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re: 3 year old boys freezes to death outside of home

Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by yurintroubl
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:23 pm to
Check my eta above.

Also - My bathroom was down the hall.


Still don't think locking a kid in it's room at night is the best solution.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:24 pm to
Very sad story. It's things like this why when my kids were little we had these on both the front and back door.

Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:25 pm to
If tigrlee had a son
Posted by BamaChick
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:27 pm to
What if these parents had the child's door locked from the outside or a high up latch the child couldn't reach and the house caught on fire?

The child burns to death because they can't get out and rescue people can't get in.

And the same "It could never happen to me because I know everything" people would be crucifying these same parents for trapping their kids in a burning building.
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:28 pm to
So you imprison your kids
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

Check my eta above. Also - My bathroom was down the hall.


Yeah, she waits until the last minute so she would never make it

quote:

Still don't think locking a kid in it's room at night is the best solution.


I'll tell you that we wouldn't do it without the baby monitor. She still wakes up at night randomly from time to time, so we need to be able to hear her for it to work.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:32 pm to
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So you imprison your kids



When they were too young to know not to go outside by themselves, you're damn right we did. This thread is a great example of what can go wrong when you've got a curious 3 yr old in the house. We had locks on all the cabinets and the toilet seats as well on top of the child locks on the front and back doors. We also had a gate to keep them off the stairs as well. At that age they have virtually zero concept of danger so you've got to have that concept for them.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 12:33 pm
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

The child burns to death because they can't get out and rescue people can't get in.


How would rescuers not be able to get in when the door locks/unlocks from the hallway?

Posted by yurintroubl
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:36 pm to
I kinda get it bc basically you are putting yourself in the same position as having a child in a crib...
Posted by TigerNutts
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:36 pm to
Knob would be too hot to operate, but just kick the damn thing in, anyway.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:37 pm to
Sad sad story. Nobody's fault though. Bunch of overprotective parents in this thread.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:38 pm to
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Like one of the comments on the article said, a determined 3 year old can get anywhere.


When mine were 3, I knew where they were at all times. You have to.
Posted by lsuwins3
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:39 pm to
According to thread title it says boys. What happened to the other ones??
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

When mine were 3, I knew where they were at all times. You have to.



What if you're asleep!?!?!
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

I kinda get it bc basically you are putting yourself in the same position as having a child in a crib...


Exactly, just with the freedom to move about her room if she needs to potty or wants to switch toys to sleep with.
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

Knob would be too hot to operate, but just kick the damn thing in, anyway.


I was actually thinking about a scenario where the fire was in another part of the house, but yeah, in her room? I'm kicking the door in or taking some third degree burns to the hand
Posted by BamaChick
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

How would rescuers not be able to get in when the door locks/unlocks from the hallway?


In my post I mentioned both doors that lock from the outside and high up latches.

A friend of mine had an escape artist child and they installed a keyed deadbolt on his door to lock him in.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

When mine were 3, I knew where they were at all times. You have to.


What if you're asleep!?!?!



That's what the child safety devices like I mentioned above are for. Kids that age can have some really strange sleeping patterns. I know both my kids when they were at that age would wake up almost nightly at some point and come get in bed with me and my wife and we'd not even know it until we woke up the next morning. Which they means they just as easily got up and instead of coming to our bed gone anywhere in the house to play.
Posted by cdaniel76
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

I don't have any kids yet but I would think it would be hard to notice a kid climbing out his crib and going outside at 4:00 am when everyone is sleeping. I'm confused why some are furious with the parents here when there was no mention of wrongdoing in the story.



Because as parents, we have the responsibility of protecting our children and when we hear of something so senseless happening to a child, we automatically wonder why the parents couldn't have done more.

Aware that children can easily unlock doors when they grow tall enough to reach them, I decided to change the locks on our front and back doors to a style where a key is required on both the inside and outside. We hang the key on a nail on the top frame of the door where our kids have no chance of reaching it.

We also invested in a home security system. Not so much for the protection from home burglary but more for keeping us alert for whenever a door opens.

I truly feel for these parents. As someone else mentioned, just imagining that poor little boy in just a shirt, diaper and boots trying to find a warm place literally hurt my heart, but more could have been done to keep this senseless tragedy from happening.
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:49 pm to
quote:


In my post I mentioned both doors that lock from the outside and high up latches.

A friend of mine had an escape artist child and they installed a keyed deadbolt on his door to lock him in.


Ah gotcha. Yeah, I'm not a fan of keyed latches, unless the key is attached to the latch with a string or something. I'd prefer not to have to keep up with a key and when I need to get in the room, I usually have to get in ASAP (bad dream, needs to be wiped, etc).
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