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Finally the topic of privatizing universities is out there.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:26 am
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:26 am
Outright closure is politically impossible, but letting a few schools go private might be workable, at least in theory.
https://theadvocate.com/news/11716059-123/regents-look-at-privatizing-public
https://theadvocate.com/news/11716059-123/regents-look-at-privatizing-public
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Board of Regents member Bill Fenstermaker, who first brought up the idea during the recent board meeting, questioned whether the state could give colleges their buildings and campuses in exchange for severing state funding ties.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:28 am to Slippy
They'll never bite on it. Ever. The state is a cash cow, and all of this whining is window dressing.
If these schools went private, they'd no longer be able to whine and would have to make changes to survive. You know, because its okay to waste taxpayers money and all.
If these schools went private, they'd no longer be able to whine and would have to make changes to survive. You know, because its okay to waste taxpayers money and all.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:30 am to Slippy
For the colleges that are looking at closure, it would be just as bad of a political hot topic as closing them.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:32 am to Volvagia
Isn't centenary college in big trouble almost to point of closure? being private isn't that safe for troubled school's. I guess they could merge a couple.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:36 am to Volvagia
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College and university system leaders are pushing for more autonomy — a less severe step toward a privatization, of sorts. Across the country, schools have done this in exchange for less funding from the state, Hurley noted.
I'm all for it. Once again, if LSU & co wants to continue doing things the way they feel they are entitled to, then raise tuition to cover the costs and see if it doesn't drive students elsewhere. Same goes for all these schools.
Eventually we are going to reach a breaking point. Education costs continue to skyrocket, yet starting salaries are stagnant. At what point to people finally say "It is not cost effective for me to go to college."
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 9:37 am
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:41 am to elprez00
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At what point do people finally say "It is not cost effective for me to go to college."
I would say that is now. I have talked to several people lately who have said that exact thing. Rightfully so, they point out that they can start a job/family/buy a house now or go party and learn some useless BS for four years and then come out with a huge debt burden. IMO, unless you are going to college to learn a legit profession (Engineer, Medical, etc.) then you are better off just going to work. Liberal Arts degrees (Sociology?) with no intention of application to further schooling are a waste of time and money. Art History? Really?
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:42 am to elprez00
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Eventually we are going to reach a breaking point. Education costs continue to skyrocket, yet starting salaries are stagnant. At what point to people finally say "It is not cost effective for me to go to college."
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:43 am to elprez00
We need a governor who's not safe playing things with eyes on his next job. Eliminating some redundant universities is going to be a political nightmare sure to drag a name through the mud by opponents but it needs to be done. We need quality over quantity. The higher ed product in this state is being watered down by resources being spread thin.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 9:44 am
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:47 am to jbgleason
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Liberal Arts degrees (Sociology?) with no intention of application to further schooling are a waste of time and money. Art History? Really?
College is not a trade school.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:53 am to titmouse
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Nearly all employers (91 percent) agree that for career success, “a candidate’s demonstrated capacity to think critically, communicate clearly, and solve complex problems is more important than his or her undergraduate major.”
Unfortunately, a lot of employers use the degree as a weedout tool when culling resumes.
A degree is somewhat proof of a lot of the qualities they are in search of.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:59 am to fightin tigers
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Unfortunately, a lot of employers use the degree as a weedout tool when culling resumes.
A degree is somewhat proof of a lot of the qualities they are in search of.
Unless a job requires a specific degree, I don't agree with this. My wife has a sociology degree, and she's had no problem being gainfully employed making above average money for people her age, and constantly has recruiters calling her. Her skills and the fact that she has a degree are far more important that what her degree is in.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 9:59 am to Slippy
Always nice when a bunch of guys who already received their taxpayer funded educations, which led to their success, seek to prevent future generations from enjoying the same opportunities.
The private/for profit college model seems to be more about generating money from Gubmint subsidized student loans than an actual education.
The private/for profit college model seems to be more about generating money from Gubmint subsidized student loans than an actual education.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 10:04 am to LNCHBOX
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Unless a job requires a specific degree, I don't agree with this. My wife has a sociology degree, and she's had no problem being gainfully employed making above average money for people her age, and constantly has recruiters calling her. Her skills and the fact that she has a degree are far more important that what her degree is in.
I agree with you. I am in a field with an increasing amount of college educated employees. 10-20 years ago a degree moved you up the ladder with a jetpack on. Today, stand in line.
Very few, if any, have a degree related to the field, but it is known that carrying a BA will get you noticed a lot faster. Not having a degree does not rule you out, but it is uphill the whole time.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 10:05 am
Posted on 3/2/15 at 10:05 am to fightin tigers
Ah, I think I misinterpreted you a tiny bit. I definitely agree with what you're saying.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 10:08 am to fightin tigers
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Unfortunately, a lot of employers use the degree as a free training program so they don't have to invest in their employees formative training.
FIFY. Tell a kid he has to get a degree to get a job. Hire kid. Expect kid to produce on day 1 without any training. Sink or Swim with no risk to an employer.
But I'm sure someone will come along and tell us how people under 35 have shitty work ethics.
Sorry, this is a touchy subject.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 10:08 am to LNCHBOX
I was told before that a degree is proof you can put up with a lot of senseless bullshite, exactly what we are looking for.
A lot of kids should be made aware of companies that offer free education assistance and that working your way through college has a new meaning.
A lot of kids should be made aware of companies that offer free education assistance and that working your way through college has a new meaning.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 10:20 am to jbgleason
I blame employers hugely for this as well.
Far too many of them won't even consider a candidate no matter their skills or experience just because they don't have a check mark on the checklist next to degree.
They don't even care if the degree is relevant most of the time. They just want to see a degree.
Far too many of them won't even consider a candidate no matter their skills or experience just because they don't have a check mark on the checklist next to degree.
They don't even care if the degree is relevant most of the time. They just want to see a degree.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 10:21 am to fightin tigers
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I was told before that a degree is proof you can put up with a lot of senseless bullshite, exactly what we are looking
It was explained to be a little less crassly by my father, but he basically said the same thing.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 10:24 am to LNCHBOX
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Unless a job requires a specific degree, I don't agree with this. My wife has a sociology degree, and she's had no problem being gainfully employed making above average money for people her age, and constantly has recruiters calling her. Her skills and the fact that she has a degree are far more important that what her degree is in.
But the point is that she has a degree.
Most worthwhile jobs won't even read the resume long enough to see how much cost savings and productivity boosts you added at your last position of you don't have a degree.
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