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Is it unfair to disregard the Toronto Raptors in the Eastern Conference?
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:29 am
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:29 am
Great home crowd, and one of the most efficient offenses in the NBA. And they are one of the deepest teams in the league. Currently, they are 3-1 this season against Atlanta, while 1-2 against Cleveland.
Should they be in the discussion of EC contenders?
Should they be in the discussion of EC contenders?
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:30 am to LSU Piston
Nahh not when you get swept by the AD-less Pelicans
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:31 am to LSU Piston
Definitely considering most LeBron teams have a bit of mental softness to them.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:32 am to BigDawg0420
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Nahh not when you get swept by the AD-less Pelicans
It's difficult enough for a team to get up for a game against the Pelicans with AD, let alone without him.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:33 am to BigDawg0420
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Nahh not when you get swept by the AD-less Pelicans
How is this relevant to anything?
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:40 am to BigDawg0420
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Nahh not when you get swept by the AD-less Pelicans
They would have beat the pels by 30 in both of those games if they didn't let there foot off the gas.
Both games they got up big while attacking the paint. once they got the cushion, they started settling for jump shots and let us back in.
Raptors definitely have a shot. They got some valuable experience in the playoffs last year. Maybe another year and another defensive presence in he paint would out them over the top.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 11:48 am
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:47 am to LSU Piston
Yeah no reason to disregard them at all. Fwiw they played and beat the hawks twice in like the first 15 games of the year before things were clicking for Atlanta so I wouldn't read that much into that either.
They are good though. Could definitely make the ECF.
They are good though. Could definitely make the ECF.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:51 am to whoknows1390
What's unfair is that the garbage Knicks, Lakers and 76ers are still more newsworthy than them. They're barely acknowledged as an NBA franchise because there is no target demographic to suck up to.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 12:03 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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Could definitely make the ECF.
Great EC matchups next week with Cleveland playing both Atlanta and Toronto on the road Wed and Fri. If Rose stayed healthy and Bosh not been lost for the season, their would have been 5 really strong teams in the EC Playoffs. Paul George's bone not popping out would have been 6. Definitely looking the strongest it has in a while.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 12:08 pm to LSU Piston
They better hope they don't have to see Alexis Ajinca aka the Raptor Killer again
Posted on 2/25/15 at 12:35 pm to LSU Piston
It's not unfair. It's generally easier to determine contenders from non-contenders in the NBA than in other professional sports leagues. Seeding will determine whether or not they get to the ECF but that's as far as they go.
If we're talking about whether or not they can get to the NBA Finals, they can't. I think most of us know they can't.
If we're talking about whether or not they can get to the NBA Finals, they can't. I think most of us know they can't.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 12:39 pm to Goldrush25
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If we're talking about whether or not they can get to the NBA Finals, they can't. I think most of us know they can't.
Why can't Toronto make the Finals?
Posted on 2/25/15 at 12:43 pm to LSU Piston
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Why can't Toronto make the Finals?
I don't think they're good enough to be Lebron's Cavs 4 times out of 7 games. They have a great backcourt but that front court has a mediocre ceiling and is too inconsistent.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 12:46 pm to Goldrush25
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I don't think they're good enough to be Lebron's Cavs 4 times out of 7 games. They have a great backcourt but that front court has a mediocre ceiling and is too inconsistent.
I don't disagree with you at all.
It will be interesting if Toronto hangs onto the 2 seed. That would be challenge for Cleveland, IMO, to beat both Atlanta and Toronto without homecourt advantage.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 12:51 pm to LSU Piston
They are probably my 2nd favorite to come out after Cleveland. Their front court is questionable
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 2/25/15 at 1:12 pm to LSU Piston
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It will be interesting if Toronto hangs onto the 2 seed. That would be challenge for Cleveland, IMO, to beat both Atlanta and Toronto without homecourt advantage.
They'll provide some entertaining TV in the playoffs. They are just too fundamentally flawed as far as overall team makeup to make a serious run. If their frontcourt was inconsistent but more talented, they'd have a better shot. If the front court was more consistent with the same amount of talent they'd have a better shot. They can't be inconsistent and mediocre and expect to go very far.
Atlanta poses a serious threat to Cleveland, and there's a lack of playoff experience on both sides. It'll be a battle but Lebron tips the scales in Cleveland's favor IMO.
I think Atlanta has to play the series of their lives to beat Cleveland, but it's not impossible.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 2/25/15 at 1:37 pm to Goldrush25
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I think Atlanta has to play the series of their lives to beat Cleveland, but it's not impossible.
Definitely not impossible. No way of knowing what some the guys will do, on either side, when dealing with playoff adversity for the first time. Now if Cleveland goes through Golden State, Houston, Toronto, Atlanta, and SA in the next few weeks looking like world beaters, I might consider them a lock.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:43 pm to LSU Piston
Toronto isn't getting past the 2nd rd. Derozan hijacks far too many possessions and converts them at inefficient rates. They have no rim protectors. Their best player shoots 41% from the field, is only 6 ft tall, and plays at the most loaded position in the NBA. Their coach is average at best.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:49 pm to Goldrush25
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I don't think they're good enough to be Lebron's Cavs 4 times out of 7 games
I don't think any team in the East can do this.........
Posted on 2/25/15 at 2:53 pm to TeachMeHowTaDante
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Derozan hijacks far too many possessions and converts them at inefficient rates. They have no rim protectors.
To your first point, I completely agree. They were playing better when the offense ran through Lowry. And the second point is one that I commented on early. Amir Johnson/Patrick Patterson can't put together a string of even decent games. Johnson in particular is abysmal as a rim protector.
Valanciunas isn't bad but his ceiling isn't enough to make up for the PF situation.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 2:56 pm
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