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re: Should AD be shut down for the rest of the season?
Posted on 2/22/15 at 11:45 am to pleading the fifth
Posted on 2/22/15 at 11:45 am to pleading the fifth
Bring him back when he's fully healthy. That will be far before the end of the season though. while I don't expect us to make the playoffs either, the rest of the season is valuable experience for AD and the rest of the team regardless of whether we make the playoffs or not. And if we do make the playoffs, it's even more valuable experience for AD that he can build on for the future when we will be competing for championships
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Posted on 2/22/15 at 11:47 am to pleading the fifth
No, it seems like we've rested him tons over the last few years as precautions for short spurts. The guy is apparently going to get hurt regardless. Besides, we can shut him down and he get hurt next season as well. You cant be scared to play AD and I think you run a real risk of driving him away if he spends half his career on the bench for precautions. I'm not advocating playing him with a significant injury, just take the kid gloves off.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 11:55 am to JeffG20
no... for 2 reasons
A) we're still in a playoff chase... just 2 games back of OKC for the final spot... and we have all tiebreakers w/ the Thunder inc. winning the season series 3-1
B) we have no reason to tank since this year's 1st round pick almost assuredly will go to the Rockets in the Asik trade barring a miracle even bigger than winning the AD lottery
A) we're still in a playoff chase... just 2 games back of OKC for the final spot... and we have all tiebreakers w/ the Thunder inc. winning the season series 3-1
B) we have no reason to tank since this year's 1st round pick almost assuredly will go to the Rockets in the Asik trade barring a miracle even bigger than winning the AD lottery
Posted on 2/22/15 at 12:25 pm to rt3
Look at Derrick Rose and the answer is obvious.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 1:26 pm to pleading the fifth
quote:
@WojYahooNBA: No structural damage with shoulder of New Orleans' Anthony Davis, league source tells Yahoo Sports. Day-to-day on his return.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 1:46 pm to pleading the fifth
only when you ask stupid questions 
Posted on 2/22/15 at 2:59 pm to Epic Cajun
Good news no doubt. Hopefully we can make a run for the 8th send but I have my doubts with Monty at the helm and losing to teams like Orlanda WITH Davis in uniform.
To all the Pelitards in my thread:
To all the Pelitards in my thread:
Posted on 2/22/15 at 3:06 pm to pleading the fifth
Get some thicker skin man. You clearly disagree with the rest of the board on the severity of the injury, nothing wrong with that except that you didn't really tell us why you thought it was so bad other than you're just scared. If you had a similar injury, play a doctor on TV, know a guy who's cousin is the janitor at Ochsner, or even if you had researched the injury and found some concerning information this thread might have gone differently. But as it stands this thread is
You: I'm scared
Board: Pussy
You: Screw you guys I'm going home.
You: I'm scared
Board: Pussy
You: Screw you guys I'm going home.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 5:03 pm to pleading the fifth
Time to fire the whole medical staff... They must be bad luck. But in reality, you're trying to show improvement to keep AD past restricted contract. Absolutely no point to shut it down, when you don't have a pick
Posted on 2/22/15 at 5:09 pm to TigerinATL
Maybe he stayed in a holiday inn express last night?
Posted on 2/22/15 at 5:33 pm to Epic Cajun
Not so subtle brag but I am a physician and routinely take care of patients with varying degrees of shoulder injuries and have myself suffered a shoulder injury which I still have occasional issues with today (granted I'm not an elite athlete). Returning too soon can certainly increase the severity of the injury with continued use instead of rest as we've seen in AD's case.
Hollinger has us sitting at 12.9% to make the playoffs. If the Pels make it they would face Golden State. My contention is that if AD's re-injury was severe enough (3-4 weeks+) maybe they shut him down through the season to minimize risk of re-injury in meaningless games. Yeah I know experience goes a long way but is it worth an offseason shoulder arthroscopy or rotator cuff repair?
I'm a big Pels fan and sat 3 rows up and across from David Stern at their inaugural game in 2002 when I still lived in NOLA. I posted the topic to see what fans who may be more plugged in than me thought about it should AD's injury cause him to miss significant time.
Hollinger has us sitting at 12.9% to make the playoffs. If the Pels make it they would face Golden State. My contention is that if AD's re-injury was severe enough (3-4 weeks+) maybe they shut him down through the season to minimize risk of re-injury in meaningless games. Yeah I know experience goes a long way but is it worth an offseason shoulder arthroscopy or rotator cuff repair?
I'm a big Pels fan and sat 3 rows up and across from David Stern at their inaugural game in 2002 when I still lived in NOLA. I posted the topic to see what fans who may be more plugged in than me thought about it should AD's injury cause him to miss significant time.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 5:38 pm to mjax57
I think the roster is being built to succeed. Cole, QPon, and Cunningham have all been meaningful in-season pickups and will hopefully have roles going forward into next season. I've already seen marked improvement over last year's disaster of a season. AD will be extended at the first opportunity and then the clock starts ticking to make the team relevant. You'll have about 3-4 years to build a contender.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 5:41 pm to pleading the fifth
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Not so subtle brag but I am a physician and routinely take care of patients with varying degrees of shoulder injuries and have myself suffered a shoulder injury which I still have occasional issues with today (granted I'm not an elite athlete). Returning too soon can certainly increase the severity of the injury with continued use instead of rest as we've seen in AD's case.
Like you said, not an elite athlete. Also, not everyone heals the same. So, while you might not be ready to do what you do, same cant be said for him.
Hollinger has us sitting at 12.9% to make the playoffs. If the Pels make it they would face Golden State. My contention is that if AD's re-injury was severe enough (3-4 weeks+) maybe they shut him down through the season to minimize risk of re-injury in meaningless games. Yeah I know experience goes a long way but is it worth an offseason shoulder arthroscopy or rotator cuff repair?
Really don't care who we play. A playoff birth would go along way to instilling confidence in not only the team but the fans that we are in the right direction.
I'm a big Pels fan and sat 3 rows up and across from David Stern at their inaugural game in 2002 when I still lived in NOLA. I posted the topic to see what fans who may be more plugged in than me thought about it should AD's injury cause him to miss significant time.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 5:43 pm to pleading the fifth
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My contention is that if AD's re-injury was severe enough (3-4 weeks+) maybe they shut him down through the season to minimize risk of re-injury in meaningless games. Yeah I know experience goes a long way but is it worth an offseason shoulder arthroscopy or rotator cuff repair?
I understand not wanting to put too much personal info out there, but that changes what we have to talk about. So what are the long term effects of shoulder surgery? I realize not having to have it is better, but I don't recall many NBA players effected long term by shoulder injuries.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 6:03 pm to TigerinATL
Chronic dislocations for one with increased laxity of the shoulder tendons/ligaments after repeated injury. I don't think a 21 year old physical phenom will have any issue rebounding from this shoulder injury. I just am voicing concern bringing him back at 80 or 90% versus bringing him back at 100% next season.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 6:06 pm to Split2874
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Plus if you shut AD down, then Monty will have more job security bc they will say we missed the playoff bc we did not have AD
mother.fricking.this.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 6:30 pm to pleading the fifth
I could see the value in shutting him down if it were a severe injury, but that doesn't seem to be the case. If somehow we could see the top 9 guys on this team healthy for even the last 10 games of the season I think that would be a big plus. Just to see how the pieces fit together and to see if any pieces need to be moved in the off season, or if the Pels should bring back this core 9 players and sign a backup center with the MLE.
Also, shutting AD down could be an excuse to give Monty another year, and no one wants to see that bullshite.
Also, shutting AD down could be an excuse to give Monty another year, and no one wants to see that bullshite.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 8:46 pm to Epic Cajun
Haven't read all of this thread, but grabbing the 8 seed and losing in the first round is NOTHING to be ashamed of.
Think about 2010 and OKC. Grabbed the 8 seed and battled the Lakers, who would go on to win it all, in a brutal 6 game series. The next year OKC would advance to the conference finals. The year after that, the NBA finals. That's not to say that OKC team and this Pelicans team have identical trajectories, but the playoff experience was incredibly valuable and played a huge role in helping some of those young players mature.
Think about 2010 and OKC. Grabbed the 8 seed and battled the Lakers, who would go on to win it all, in a brutal 6 game series. The next year OKC would advance to the conference finals. The year after that, the NBA finals. That's not to say that OKC team and this Pelicans team have identical trajectories, but the playoff experience was incredibly valuable and played a huge role in helping some of those young players mature.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 8:55 pm to Matisyeezy
I agree, the experience and seeing how the players fit together is the biggest plus. Also, if they're giving the pick to Houston they might as well make it as bad as possible.
Posted on 2/22/15 at 11:11 pm to Epic Cajun
we have lost enough games, let's try winning.
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