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re: Loomis Has A Salary Cap 'Plan,' 20-item Checklist For Offseason
Posted on 2/18/15 at 5:40 pm to htran90
Posted on 2/18/15 at 5:40 pm to htran90
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Justin Forsett
29 years old, he won't have high value because of that. Running backs age quicker than any other position.
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CJ Spiller
27 and highly injury prone.
Demarco Murray is the only blue chip running back that'll potentially be on the market. I think Ingram has a higher value than most think. He's not worth breaking the bank over, but it would be nice to have him back. He had a really good season. If not for injuries he easily gets 1k+
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Posted on 2/18/15 at 5:41 pm to htran90
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I was expecting some 3yr/18mil and you say that. I honestly chuckled...how cheap RBs can be had these days.
Well with the amount of talent and the number of RBs out there its going to drive the price down. Ingram has already stated he wants to stay here so he may take a little less because of it.
My number was just a guess but those are the reasons I said the number I did.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 5:44 pm to htran90
The Redskins have Morris, why would they need Ingram?
Posted on 2/18/15 at 5:59 pm to CocoLoco
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The Redskins have Morris, why would they need Ingram?
A better example would be Arizona, a team that is more run heavy than pass heavy. Washington was the first team that came to mind since I was reading the RG3 thread (yes, I know they have Morris who is a VERY solid RB - probably a better RB than Ingram). I meant to use it as an example of teams that would have a better fit for Ingram as opposed to Vereen if they were wiped clean of RBs and needed to use one as a bellcow
Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:55 pm to bonethug0108
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Still cool to see for the peeps screaming about the sky falling.
Because you can magically get under the cap doesn't mean the team is going to be worth a shite
Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:56 pm to Hurricane Mike
K
Posted on 2/18/15 at 6:59 pm to CocoLoco
Ive really been expecting to hearabout a few cap casualties by now, either by cuts or restructures.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:04 pm to Meateye
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but I have full faith in the fact that he's got this
crazy how this guy gets props every year for fixing problems he created
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:06 pm to Lester Earl
He's a bean counter and good at it. Not his problem to be the talent evaluator. That's not what he does.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:10 pm to CocoLoco
teams that evaluate talent well dont need a GM that can only count money. All GMs know how to handle money, or they hire someone to do it. not all of them can evaluate talent
sadly this assclown has immunity forever.
sadly this assclown has immunity forever.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:17 pm to htran90
There's also an amusing disconnect on this board. For the most part, people here either despise Ingram or at the very least think he's not worth keeping around if he costs too much, and yet many of those same people are absolutely sure that other teams are watching the same RB they think is mediocre and saying to themselves "we have to have that guy at any price!"
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:17 pm to Lester Earl
There's 4 types of gms.
Great evaluator, great bean counter
Great evaluator, bad bean counter
Bad evaluator, great bean counter
Bad evaluator, bad bean counter
We have number 3 and it's a lot better than number 4,which a lot of gms are
Great evaluator, great bean counter
Great evaluator, bad bean counter
Bad evaluator, great bean counter
Bad evaluator, bad bean counter
We have number 3 and it's a lot better than number 4,which a lot of gms are
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:24 pm to htran90
I can accept that, I just hate how he is glamorized for it. He is what he is, and I don't really see it as a positive.
and honestly there are very few that can't count beans. As far as manipulating numbers.
now are there a lot of bad financial decision makers? sure. I'm not sure they are mutually exclusive, because that takes some evaluating. I don't think Loomis is particularly strong in this area.
and honestly there are very few that can't count beans. As far as manipulating numbers.
now are there a lot of bad financial decision makers? sure. I'm not sure they are mutually exclusive, because that takes some evaluating. I don't think Loomis is particularly strong in this area.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:25 pm to htran90
The first thing on the checklist should be getting the vicodin, I mean the edge, running ramped through the coaches lockers again.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:29 pm to Lester Earl
I gave him a lot of crap for the Harper contract, but many of the others are hard to blame him for. Evans, Grubbs, and colston we had no clue would fall off a cliff.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:41 pm to Lester Earl
I think he does a good job with the finances. Nothing special that he should be glamorized for, but there are far worse in the NFL. I respect your stance on it, but I don't think Loomis is the problem here. We've had coaches that have been needing to go. Let him handle finances, have Sean and someone that can evaluate talent (specifically on defense) handle that.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:56 pm to Lester Earl
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teams that evaluate talent well dont need a GM that can only count money.
I believe high end contract negotiation and contract construction as well the over all over-site of PR relations and the awesome dealings with Roger and the NFL with all the and rules and regs a modern team must handle as well dealing with state and local officials charity organizations TV and media markets and the all important bottom line profitability of a owners business the handling of the entire personnel and employee structure with compliance to state and federal regs and tax codes. Call it just bean counting I guess if that makes some feel superior so be it. But the job seems to be a big one.
I doubt Loomis makes the kind of money he does for bean counting. Every single person seems to say that Benson is tight with his money.
I personally don't think Loomis has sh!t to do with evaluation of football players until of course someone can prove to me otherwise. All I hear is that its a team effort.
Posted on 2/19/15 at 8:06 am to Lester Earl
Lester,
loomis either "makes room" for the guys that the coaching staff wants, or he pays according to the market/value that the scouts and staff perceives.
he is one small part of this equation. personally, i believe that some of the scouting and coaching staff needed to be turned over.
loomis either "makes room" for the guys that the coaching staff wants, or he pays according to the market/value that the scouts and staff perceives.
he is one small part of this equation. personally, i believe that some of the scouting and coaching staff needed to be turned over.
This post was edited on 2/19/15 at 8:16 am
Posted on 2/19/15 at 8:14 am to Screaming Viking
Listen up flaming dragon, They've already hired new coaches and gotten fresh blood in the scouting department. Pay attention
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