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How long should a game be?

Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:38 pm
Posted by DieDaily
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:38 pm
After watching this episode of PBS Game Show, "Are Videogames Too Long?", and then seeing all the controversy and discussion around Order 1886's supposed length it got me thinking, "How long should a game be?"

Do you have a formula you calculate in your head like Dr RC? Do you think games are getting too long or should they be even longer? Of the games you play, what percentage would you say you beat?

ETA: Addtional questions / thoughts posed later in the thread
Do we do this same sort of calculation of fun per an hour with other forms of media?

"I was going to read Gone Girl but then I saw War & Peace was cheaper AND 3 times longer, so I decided to read that instead."

Do we really care if one film is longer than another? Do we maximize entertainment per an hour in the same manner as we seem to do with video games?
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 8:37 am
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:42 pm to
Keeping it short for now, different genres have different expectations but price is a factor also IMO. Child of light can get away with being a 10-15 hour game because it was only $15.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:45 pm to
Story should take no less than 24 hours to beat.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:47 pm to
7 hours minimum, with multiplayer.

Single player only 10-12 hours minimum.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:48 pm to
I think it's really subjective. I know Destiny is touchy around here but I'll use that as an example. You can cruise through the main story in probably a few hours at the very most, especially with some help. Which I think is ok bc that's just the beginning of the game. Loot, quests, multi-player are all part of it.
For a game that's strictly all in on a single player like Last of Us, I think 8-10 hours of game play should be the benchmark
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:48 pm to
Depends on the type of game. FPS can be short because most people only play those for the mulitplayer. I've played some games for over 100 hours and didn't have a problem with it. I might be different because I like to try do everything in a game, not just rush through the main story.
Posted by RTR America
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:51 pm to
Short and no multiplayer? It better have some serious replayability for $60.
Posted by HeavyCore
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:51 pm to
quote:

"Are Videogames Too Long?",

Seeing this and this guys other video's makes me think he hates video games.



Proof:
quote:

"Dragon Age: Inquisition is 40-80 hours long....and that...just made me...weep inside."
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68528 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:55 pm to
He's part of the gaming industry's problem right now. They want mobile games that don't take much thinking and that they can finish in one or two sittings.
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 7:55 pm
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 7:55 pm to
Well it depends on your availability too. I know this pisses people off on here to bring up but those of us with kids aren't crazy about putting 80 hours into a game. Even some people with ign have said that they have so much to do and play that they don't like it either. I still like them but it sucks to not finish so many games or feel like you aren't making progress.
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:09 pm to
This is a huge issue with me, if you want me to drop $60 you better give me at least 15-20 hours of single player (don't do much MP.) $3 an hour is about the going rate for a movie so unless your game has great replay ability for a short campaign you better give me a longer play through.

I typically wait for the MP heavy games to drop in price for this reason and I am fine with that knowing up front the campaign will be short. I get pissed when a AAA single player game is done in 7 hours. I have been known in the past to happily drop $45 a month on 3 MMO subs to box so it's not a money issue.
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 8:10 pm
Posted by Grim
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

Story should take no less than 24 hours to beat.

This is just wrong. Some games benefit from having a tighter story. 6 hours is pushing it but a lot of games would start losing value if they were more than 8-12 in story mode
Posted by Scruffy
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:43 pm to
If it is short, it has to have replayability.

Hack and slash games can be short because of that.

MP games are permitted to be short because the main campaign is secondary.

If the game isn't really replayable and costs $60, it should last at least 20 hrs of gameplay.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:45 pm to
I really enjoy longer games. My job has me working 12 hour shifts, so on my days off, I really like to get lost in a lengthy game.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:46 pm to
i ahve different schools of thought.

games like inquisition and borderlands are something i expect to put 50+ hours into and then never play again. dont like having to do skill trees and fetch quests over again.

games like dark souls (not counting 1st playthrough), deus ex human revolution, max payne 3, RE4, etc, I expect 12 hours and tons of replayability so i can play over and over and not get bored

what chaps my arse is when you get shite like far cry 3 where there's a ton of skill trees, collectibles, fetch quests and shite and the game only lasts 12 hours. that's when i feel like i wasted money. i dont want to start over and go find 30 relics to unlock a badass gun again.

i just want fun, dynamic, refreshing campaigns that arent repetitive when im playing a 10-12 hour game. When im playing the long haul games like i mentioned above, i dont mind it being a long experience that is a one time deal
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 8:50 pm
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21312 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:39 pm to
As long as it needs to be.

Zelda games seems to have a perfect time for me. But if I'm paying a shooter then make it a few hours. If I'm playing an RPG I want many hours, etc.
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 9:40 pm
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23885 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:53 pm to
what is the typical AC gameplay time frame?

I'd never even thought about it because it takes me a long time to finish only putting in an hour or two here and there. I'm also somewhat of a completionist so I probably take longer than most
Posted by sicboy
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:12 pm to
I hear one of the big knocks on Alien Isolation is that it's way too long. You wouldn't think that would happen with a game like that.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 10:14 pm to
quote:

I hear one of the big knocks on Alien Isolation is that it's way too long. You wouldn't think that would happen with a game like that.


i could definitely see it for a horror game like that. Amnesia Dark Descent was ALMOST too long, while Machine for Pigs was a nice length. Outlast is supposedly a nice length (ill find out soon)

doing the same hiding/puzzle solving stuff for over 12 hours can wear on you
Posted by oauron
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Member since Sep 2011
14512 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 11:15 pm to
Length of the game doesn't matter to me. I had far more fun with MadWorld (3 hours at most) than I ever did with Dragon Age. As long as the story is quality and I feel like I got value out of my purchase, I'm good. Aiming for some arbitrary length or benchmark can hurt the game if forced.
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