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Asked to replace older employee with younger one - WWTOTD?

Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Asgard Device
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:41 pm
Let's say you're a 41 y/o manager at a company and the higher ups tell you that you're getting a new employee. Sounds great but its a little suspicious because you aren't in need of help.

Interviews start last Tuesday. First guy in is a great candidate. He is a high performer for a competitor. I'm thinking management will like this because we all know who he is and he has a great reputation. They tell you to hire somebody under 35 instead. Red flags going up, but okay maybe it's just the culture they want. We are zero'd in on a 28 y/o unemployed guy who is has technical skills but lacks experience so he's an unknown quantity.

Fast forward to this morning and now we have to lay off a long time employee who was instrumental to the firm's growth and success. Really sharp guy. He is 52 years old. They want him gone before new guy gets here.

Yes, the new guy is willing to work for less than half the cost, but is this not an indicator of bad things to come?

Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:42 pm to
Oh this thread is going to be great evidence in the employment lawsuit that's going to get filed.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:43 pm to
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They tell you to hire somebody under 35 instead.


Textbook age discrimination. Watch yourself.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:43 pm to
That sounds odd.. what type of industry? how old is managment within the company?
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:43 pm to
41 - looks as if you have about 11 years left with that company.
Posted by LSURoss
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:43 pm to
1/10.

If you are actually in a position to lay someone off and you have to come here to make a decision, I hope your boss sees this and cans you.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:44 pm to
Sounds like discrimination.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:44 pm to
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employment lawsuit

The attorneys are circling.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27097 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:45 pm to
Is it discrimination if the younger guy will work for less? Serious question.
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 12:46 pm
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:46 pm to
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Fast forward to this morning and now we have to lay off a long time employee who was instrumental to the firm's growth and success. Really sharp guy. He is 52 years old. They want him gone before new guy gets here.



quote:

Yes, the new guy is willing to work for less than half the cost, but is this not an indicator of bad things to come?

Sounds like a nice company to work for. Watch your back.
Posted by speckledtrout
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2011
2035 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:46 pm to
Call HR or.....

Posted by Kingwood Tiger
Katy, TX
Member since Jul 2005
14162 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:48 pm to
So they are going to layoff one guy and hire another....you should let the older guy know so he can get his lawyer on retainer.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:48 pm to
Is this move all about screwing someone out of their retirement?
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:49 pm to
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Is it discrimination if the younger guy will work for less? Serious question.
"Higher-ups" said hire a younger guy. Salary was not a factor with this position. Neither was experience and competence, apparently.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by ptra
Member since Nov 2006
1428 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:50 pm to
You are also hiring your replacement
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:51 pm to
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Asgard Device

I work for some pieces of shite


Polish up your resume. The next guy you give tour of the facilities will be your replacement.

I actually saw that happen. Second in command interviewed, recommended, and brought a guy around and introduced him. What the guy at the top didn't tell him? The guy was his replacement, not for another department head job as he thought. Two weeks later the new guy was my boss.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:51 pm to
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Watch yourself


OP, let this be your main takeaway from this, especially since you're over 40.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:52 pm to
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Posted by LSUintheNW Is this move all about screwing someone out of their retirement?


Defined contribution (401k), so no.
Posted by Isabelle
Member since Jul 2012
2726 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:52 pm to
Sounds like age discrimination. Jerks!!!
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