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re: USW strike...** POSSIBLE END IN SIGHT **
Posted on 2/1/15 at 8:07 am to magildachunks
Posted on 2/1/15 at 8:07 am to magildachunks
He's made up his own straw man and is expanding on it. The status quo is 3%/year. Although it used to be 3/4/4 I think. When you're doubling inflation, I don't see how anyone could be upset with those numbers.
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Posted on 2/1/15 at 8:13 am to fightin tigers
quote:
You must not think much of yourself to take a pay cut for three years.
you do know that markets rise and fall, right?
there are currently thousands of roustabouts and oilfield support personnel across LA and TX that would love to have had the option to keep their job while taking a paycut
Posted on 2/1/15 at 8:14 am to magildachunks
OIL FIELD TRASH MAKING OIL FIELD CASH stickers getting scraped off trucks at dealerships as they are traded in on used sedans all over town. As with every one of these threads, those guys who were bragging about how much they were pulling down are now whining about how it is my duty to pay more at the pump to support their lifestyle. Now you add in the Union crooks putting pressure on legitimate businesses to support their salaries and organizations and it's just too much. I may feel some empathy for the guys forced to join a union to take a job but not enough to sacrifice my money to support them. I hope this leads to a correction in the market place.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 8:44 am to Teauxler
Its 9 out of how many ?
I know its not 100%
Where are the 9
I know its not 100%
Where are the 9
Posted on 2/1/15 at 8:51 am to Cracker
Shell Deer Park
Exxon Beaumont
Both Marathon's in Texas City
Lyondell in Houston
Marathon in Kentucky
Tesoro x 2 in California
Tesoro in Anacortes
Exxon Beaumont
Both Marathon's in Texas City
Lyondell in Houston
Marathon in Kentucky
Tesoro x 2 in California
Tesoro in Anacortes
Posted on 2/1/15 at 8:54 am to Cracker
Why do only some strike?
And why are they asking for so much at a time like this?
We may be lucky to get a 3% raise this year or a portion of our bonus since it'll be hard to meet targets
And why are they asking for so much at a time like this?
We may be lucky to get a 3% raise this year or a portion of our bonus since it'll be hard to meet targets
Posted on 2/1/15 at 8:55 am to Nobs
quote:
Shell Deer Park
Exxon Beaumont
Both Marathon's in Texas City
Lyondell in Houston
Marathon in Kentucky
Tesoro x 2 in California
Tesoro in Anacortes
There a link where the USW updates the strike list? Just checked their website and there's nothing listed.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 8:56 am to jbgleason
Soith Louisiana is littered with nervous plant operators this morning ..
Posted on 2/1/15 at 8:57 am to TigahRag
This whole deal sounds shitty
$26/day whether you want to strike or not. frick that
$26/day whether you want to strike or not. frick that
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:00 am to Paige
this reminds me of convos i have with my mom (she's a big pro-union person). i don't want my future determined by others
unions are structured to prevent the best at the bottom from rising and to protect the old guard at the top. it's just their nature
i want my own work to determine my own value
striking is another way they perpetuate this system. who is going to be most hurt by this? the lower-tier workers (aka the younger ones). what can they do about it from within the union? nothing. if they rock the boat, the union will have them blacklisted. they're told to suck it up now and one day they'll be the fat cat at the top
unions are structured to prevent the best at the bottom from rising and to protect the old guard at the top. it's just their nature
i want my own work to determine my own value
striking is another way they perpetuate this system. who is going to be most hurt by this? the lower-tier workers (aka the younger ones). what can they do about it from within the union? nothing. if they rock the boat, the union will have them blacklisted. they're told to suck it up now and one day they'll be the fat cat at the top
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:00 am to LateArrivalforLSU
quote:
There a link where the USW updates the strike list? Just checked their website and there's nothing listed.
Not that I know of. I saw it listed in a news article.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:01 am to Cracker
quote:
Before Louisiana reduced its revenue forecast, oil production was projected to generate as much as $1.5 billion of the $9.9 billion in estimated revenue for the fiscal year through June, according to Greg Albrecht, chief economist for the Legislative Fiscal Office.
All of you celebrating the lower cost of gas and reveling in the O&G folks losing their jobs, read the quote above a few more times and let that sink in. That $1.5B-$9B is gonna hurt everyone considerably. And for those of you pissing and moaning about cuts to higher ed and health care this might shed some light on why LSU will get a nice little cut as well.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:01 am to SlowFlowPro
Yeaaaa
There was a time and place for unions. They need to go away now.
There was a time and place for unions. They need to go away now.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:02 am to SlowFlowPro
That's really fricked up
Who's posting strike pics?
Who's posting strike pics?
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:06 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
There was a time and place for unions. They need to go away now.
well if an employer and a group of employees want to voluntarily bind themselves to agreements, then they should be allowed to
i don't think unions should be given special protection by the federal government, though
i have no problem with unions as a concept, but i just don't have a desire to subject myself to that sort of system.
in other words, i don't see what the upsides to being in a union would be for me
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:06 am to tigerinthebueche
I don't get it
"oil field trash" are only a small portion of the oil and gas industry. And so what. They work hard. I don't understand why the OT wishes misfortune on so many people
"oil field trash" are only a small portion of the oil and gas industry. And so what. They work hard. I don't understand why the OT wishes misfortune on so many people
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:08 am to LateArrivalforLSU
quote:
There a link where the USW updates the strike list? Just checked their website and there's nothing listed.
It's on their site now:
LINK
Exxon Beaumont isn't on there but both plants in Deer Park are on the list.
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 9:13 am
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:09 am to Paige
quote:
"oil field trash" are only a small portion of the oil and gas industry. And so what. They work hard. I don't understand why the OT wishes misfortune on so many people
well that particular industry gets targeted for 2 reasons (both apply only in the "good times")
1. the self-proclaimed "oil field trash" loves acting like their life is a rap video and showing off all their bling/toys
2. the educated workforce that earns significantly less than the uneducated workforce, in the face of #1, isn't going to take kindly to that culture.
it's just a dual-sided group identification process
the thing is, that only applies during the good times. oil field work is a volatile market and the "good times" are only temporary. that's why they make so much. they should be saving the excess for the learn times (like now). they don't (which is the only way they can sustain #1 above), so not it's time for the roles to flip and that non "oil field trash" to talk about how great their life is and how much it sucks to be the other guy
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:11 am to SlowFlowPro
unions are antiques of the past. the sooner they go away the better
Posted on 2/1/15 at 9:11 am to Paige
They hate what they don't understand
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