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re: USW strike...** POSSIBLE END IN SIGHT **
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:45 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:45 pm to fightin tigers
And btw, I've seen and lived through a large strike, first hand, when corporate hired replacements, for the entire group of union strikers. They were given the option to cross the line & keep their jobs, or be replaced. Some did, with armed guards posted outside of their homes for protection from the very people who were supposedly protecting them, and the rest were replaced by qualified outsiders who were bused in & out, daily, through the hailstorm of bricks & some gunfire. Operations resumed quite nicely & the union eventually caved regarding some of it's ludicrous demands. ... Don't know what's so "ignorant" about it. 
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 12:49 pm
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Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:46 pm to fightin tigers
fightin tigers
Im about to down size then get the ol hag something bigger. We are expecting #3 shortly so we need more room.
Im about to down size then get the ol hag something bigger. We are expecting #3 shortly so we need more room.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:48 pm to Arkla Missy
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The days of corporate agreeing to the concept that a union employee can sit on his arse & collect o/t while his machine, equipment, computer, etc. is fricked up, many times due to his own ignorance or his own intention of fricking it up, and while someone else comes in to fix it are for the most part, over.
On an individual basis, employees have made themselves more desirable by education and training, and the need for unionized employment isn't what it once was.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:48 pm to Arkla Missy
I'm speaking more to your description of the union worker.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:51 pm to MeatHammer09
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The union protects your job if you were to ever make a mistake or in a tough situation that could result in termination.
The problem with this, while you may feel more secure in your job, you have to work with other people who have the same protection. Think about that for a minute.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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On an individual basis, employees have made themselves more desirable by education and training, and the need for unionized employment isn't what it once was.
Agreed. Again though. In an industry where root causes aren't immediately known union's still have a place. Documentation is something now done for job protection rather than actual safety.
It gives you a day in court to defend your side with an impartial judge.
This post was edited on 2/1/15 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:51 pm to fightin tigers
I dont know a single person who has that on their vehicle. I honestly think its pretty dumb and useless.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:52 pm to Stexas
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Posted by Stexas And we have a fricken LOOP. Booyah!
It's on the verge of being weight limited.
Trucks will not be able to use it, meaning they would have to completely avoid LC since I10 is already posted.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:54 pm to MeatHammer09
Usually the salary parking lot is the one with the big arse trucks and suv's. Not saying it doesn't happen over in the hourly parking lot though.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:54 pm to MeatHammer09
RogerTheShrubber
I am quite aware of the people i work around. I know who i can/cant trust or take their word for. The stuff we encounter on a daily basis is some serious stuff and i havent even once taking that for granted.
I am quite aware of the people i work around. I know who i can/cant trust or take their word for. The stuff we encounter on a daily basis is some serious stuff and i havent even once taking that for granted.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:54 pm to fightin tigers
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Agreed. Again though. In an industry where root causes aren't immediately known union's still have a place.
Construction trades with journeyman workers are a good example of effective union employment.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:55 pm to fightin tigers
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description of the union worker.
Curious, which part of it was untrue?
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Construction trades with journeyman workers are a good example of effective union employment.
For the same reasons
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:55 pm to MeatHammer09
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you could cross the line but it is highly frowned upon. In this industry, cant speak for others, but in this one, you are here more than you are at home. You form good friendships wiht your coworkers and to cross the line you have just become the black sheep and no one will want to associate or help you.
No, if you work at a union facility and they strike then everyone is SOL with the exception of staff. I think the company looks at it from the line of you could be faking it and sabotage equipment and whatnot.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:56 pm to fightin tigers
Agreed. I am hourly trash.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 12:59 pm to Ole Geauxt
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which part of it was untrue?
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a union employee can sit on his arse & collect o/t while his machine, equipment, computer, etc. is fricked up, many times due to his own ignorance or his own intention of fricking it up, and while someone else comes in to fix it are for the most part
I admit it is the fault of a braggart workforce that only tries to accentuate the positive parts of their field and deny there is a shitty negative that goes with it.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 1:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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On an individual basis, employees have made themselves more desirable by education and training, and the need for unionized employment isn't what it once was.
Agree, but large unions are trying to remain relevant so as to sustain their huge profits by placing exceptionally ludicrous demands on companies such as not being able to hire contract workers to replace union workers when they retire or leave, regardless of whom is most qualified for the positions. This has zero to do with attempting to promote seniority, and everything to do with keeping the union in existence to maintain its profits.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 1:03 pm to fightin tigers
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a union employee can sit on his arse & collect o/t while his machine, equipment, computer, etc. is fricked up, many times due to his own ignorance or his own intention of fricking it up, and while someone else comes in to fix it are for the most part
I admit it is the fault of a braggart workforce that only tries to accentuate the positive parts of their field and deny there is a shitty negative that goes with it.
I've personally observed it for 3o + years, yes, it's true. I was curious what you disagreed with, seems like nothing.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 1:04 pm to fightin tigers
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a union employee can sit on his arse & collect o/t while his machine, equipment, computer, etc. is fricked up, many times due to his own ignorance or his own intention of fricking it up, and while someone else comes in to fix it are for the most part
same said for a non-union employee. its the field that we work in. if something breaks and its beyond our repair then we extend the work to other crafts who specialize in whatever has broken. its not always about just sitting back and collecting OT. I admit, there is downtime but that is after you have done your job and are 100% sure that your equipment is reliable shape.
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a union employee can sit on his arse & collect o/t while his machine, equipment, computer, etc. is fricked up, many times due to his own ignorance or his own intention of fricking it up, and while someone else comes in to fix it are for the most part
same said for a non-union employee. its the field that we work in. if something breaks and its beyond our repair then we extend the work to other crafts who specialize in whatever has broken. its not always about just sitting back and collecting OT. I admit, there is downtime but that is after you have done your job and are 100% sure that your equipment is reliable shape.
Posted on 2/1/15 at 1:07 pm to mattz1122
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Low oil prices are not good for Louisiana. smh at those celebrating it
These plants make record profits every damn year
As soon as the average American reaps a benefit and gets some relief.....they lay off.
It sucks but it is what it is
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