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Avoiding the 8-9 Trap in NCAA
Posted on 1/29/15 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 1/29/15 at 2:43 pm
Yeah, looking ahead, whatever.
So I have a spreadsheet in the past on tounrey info for..."entertainment" purposes.
Anyway, since 2005, there have been 50/80 BCS Conference teams that were 8 or 9 seeds.
Overall, only 4/80 have made it to sweet 16 or farther: 2011 Butler (Runner Up), 2014 Kentucky (Runner up), 2013 Wichita State (Final 4), 2010 Northern Iowa (Sweet 16).
Of the 50 BCS schools, here are some stats:
Range of wins: 19-26(2009 LSU (we got screwed!)
Average wins/Losses: 21.5-10.6
Median wins/losses:21-11
Average RPI *: 36.9
Average KenPom*: 30.5
*missing 3/10 seasons but will update soon
Right now we're at 16-4 with 11 games left in regular season:
@MSU
Auburn
Alabama
Kentucky
@UT
@TAM
Florida
@Auburn
Ole Miss
UT
@Arkansas
Current KenPom: 34
Current RPI: 36
So...It would seem likely we can place higher than the characteristics of the 8/9 teams. Obviously the more wins the better, but as of today, seems like we're indecent shape to avoid the 8/9.
So I have a spreadsheet in the past on tounrey info for..."entertainment" purposes.
Anyway, since 2005, there have been 50/80 BCS Conference teams that were 8 or 9 seeds.
Overall, only 4/80 have made it to sweet 16 or farther: 2011 Butler (Runner Up), 2014 Kentucky (Runner up), 2013 Wichita State (Final 4), 2010 Northern Iowa (Sweet 16).
Of the 50 BCS schools, here are some stats:
Range of wins: 19-26(2009 LSU (we got screwed!)
Average wins/Losses: 21.5-10.6
Median wins/losses:21-11
Average RPI *: 36.9
Average KenPom*: 30.5
*missing 3/10 seasons but will update soon
Right now we're at 16-4 with 11 games left in regular season:
@MSU
Auburn
Alabama
Kentucky
@UT
@TAM
Florida
@Auburn
Ole Miss
UT
@Arkansas
Current KenPom: 34
Current RPI: 36
So...It would seem likely we can place higher than the characteristics of the 8/9 teams. Obviously the more wins the better, but as of today, seems like we're indecent shape to avoid the 8/9.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 3:04 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
I think we finish 23-8, which puts on NCAA bubble. No better than a 10 seed.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 3:07 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
I think this team could beat a #1 seed. Say they played Virginia, it would be a low scoring, drag em out game that could go either way. That said, if they can somehow move their way to a 6 seed or down to an 11, that would be optimal.
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 1/29/15 at 3:10 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
If we are in the NCAAs I don't care what our seed is. UVA is a bad matchup in my opinion
Posted on 1/29/15 at 3:12 pm to TheWalrus
quote:
I think this team could beat a #1 seed.
I read this as "we could be a #1 seed"
I was thinking uhhh....nooooo
Posted on 1/29/15 at 3:34 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
That 09 team got royally screwed, what a horrible seed that year. Team was much better than that, total bullshite
imo I'd prefer 6,7,10,11 over 8,9
imo I'd prefer 6,7,10,11 over 8,9
Posted on 1/29/15 at 3:36 pm to lsucjn
quote:
I think we finish 23-8, which puts on NCAA bubble. No better than a 10 seed.
I don't think we'd be on the bubble at 12-6 in the SEC with a win @ WVU.
You're also forgetting about the SEC tourney
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 1/29/15 at 3:44 pm to lsucjn
quote:
No better than a 10 seed.
Would be better off at 10 than 8/9 IMO. Looking at most of the projected 2's and I think the Tigers would have a shot with most. BTW if they would go 23-8 I think 1 and 1 in the tourney probably gets them smack dab in the dreaded 8/9 slot.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 4:50 pm to RANDY44
23-8 with a win against UK will easily get us at 6 or 7!
Posted on 1/30/15 at 12:16 am to Ghostfacedistiller
20-11
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 12:17 am
Posted on 1/30/15 at 1:55 am to Mshargois3
Great info. In addition, playing close to Louisiana would be beneficial also, as compared to going to Idaho, Oregon or the Carolinas.
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