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re: Report: Richard Sherman has torn elbow ligaments

Posted on 1/28/15 at 12:09 am to
Posted by Hopeful Doc
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 12:09 am to
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Green Bay not attacking him just gets more and more head scratching


They made a big deal about it on TV, and he was obviously not himself. The only logical explanation I've been able to come up with is that no one on GB pointed it out, or the staff didn't give the observation credence.

Now, I'm not a former college or professional athlete, and I'm not all that smart, so it's probably a good thing that I'm not calling plays for a team representing the NFC in its championship game, but I would have picked on him pretty hard when GB had to go back to throwing the ball at the end of that game.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 12:11 am to
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They made a big deal about it on TV, and he was obviously not himself. The only logical explanation I've been able to come up with is that no one on GB pointed it out, or the staff didn't give the observation credence.


If the Packers WRs weren't screaming to McCarthy about it than they are even dumber than I think McCarthy is
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 12:34 am to
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Opossum is the correct spelling
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 1:47 am to
in fairness to the Packers (& I can't believe I'm defending their horrible 4th quarter game plan) they were ahead by double digits and probably didn't want to change their plan of attack that late in the game.

even with their dumbass conservative finish they were still over 90 percent win rate with 2 minutes lefteven with a dumbass conservative finish they were still over 90 percent win rate until the inside kick
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 1:49 am
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 7:41 am to
Cant wait for Sherman to get a pick 6 and get in Bradys face with a U Mad Bro
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 8:45 am to
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That's the whole point. You don't know if he would've been as effective with one arm because the packers were terribly stubborn about it.


Well Rodgers no doubt already had some pretty severe PTSD from passing to him earlier. The risk was too great, especially since they were winning at that point.
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 8:46 am
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 8:48 am to
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. The risk was too great, especially since they were winning at that point.


Running a screen or a curl or another easy route with an elite QB isn't risky at all. It's good coaching.
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:00 am to
If it's in the context of their gameplan anyway, that's fine. I don't think you shift it to target a player if there's a chance he's just baiting you.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:05 am to
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If it's in the context of their gameplan anyway, that's fine. I don't think you shift it to target a player if there's a chance he's just baiting you.



Wut?

This is literally done all the time.

Hell, the Colts completely changed their defensive gameplan once they figured out Peyton couldn't hit the broadside of a barn deep.
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 9:09 am
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:06 am to
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If it's in the context of their gameplan anyway, that's fine. I don't think you shift it to target a player if there's a chance he's just baiting you.


Yes. Yes you do
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:21 am to
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Hell, the Colts completely changed their defensive gameplan once they figured out Peyton couldn't hit the broadside of a barn deep.


That's a little different than throwing to a cornerback that may or may not be really injured, and who has already picked you off earlier in the game. Deion Sanders is a prime example. He's admitted that he would feign injury to try to get QBs to throw the ball his way since they never would under normal circumstances.

In the example you just used, Peyton Manning is actively demonstrating that he couldn't pass.
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 9:24 am
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:24 am to
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In the example you just used, Peyton Manning is actively demonstrating that he couldn't pass.


Sherman was wincing like he just got punched in the ball and couldn't even extend his arm out. That would be actively demonstrating that he won't be able to do what he is best at, which is being physical

By that logic, they shouldn't have changed their defense because Peyton manning might've been just playing up the injury. Doesn't make any sense
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:26 am to
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Sherman was wincing like he just got punched in the ball and couldn't even extend his arm out. That would be actively demonstrating that he won't be able to do what he is best at, which is being physical


And how would you act if you were a cornerback faking an injury?

Peyton Manning isn't going to intentionally start throwing ducks to try to manipulate a defense. The two situations do not compare.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:30 am to
Automatically assuming someone is faking an injury is idiotic is my point.
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:36 am to
I hope Brady abuses his arse and makes him quit
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 9:47 am to
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I have one torn ligament in my elbow and I'm still able to powerlift and workout, but it hurts like hell. I can't imagine more than one torn.



Ditto
I tore one and the only powerlifting I could do was my arm. The pain was excruciating.
He could inject his elbow for the game, but still.....
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:07 am to
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And how would you act if you were a cornerback faking an injury?



How would a dump off to a RB with a screen blocking scheme be dangerous?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:31 am to
Everyone's a gameplanning genius after the fact.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71426 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:36 am to
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Everyone's a gameplanning genius after the fact.





Oh, the ol "You've never been a coach, so you can't judge them!" excuse.

I was openly questioning why they weren't going after him in the game thread. You don't have to be an expert to go hmmm, maybe they should test the injured guy who can barely move his arm.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:45 am to
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Oh, the ol "You've never been a coach, so you can't judge them!" excuse.

I was openly questioning why they weren't going after him in the game thread. You don't have to be an expert to go hmmm, maybe they should test the injured guy who can barely move his arm.


They didn't have to go after him. They were winning the game and would have won the game if it hadn't been for an inordinate amount of ill-timed gaffes and bad decisions on their part. Not targeting Sherman is pretty low down on the list of things they should've done better IMO.
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