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Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:24 pm to Dr RC
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:24 pm to Dr RC
quote:and the most recent contracts were negotiated based on the popularity of Tagliabue's NFL...2011 was only year 3 into massive rule changes that diluted the game, the conduct policy hadn't become as unpopular as it is now
It's straight up being in the right place at the right time
2006
2007
goodell was commissioner, but it was Tags' NFL
2009
2010
slightly diluted NFL
2011
the new Roger Goodell NFL was in full swing.
those next round of tv contracts will be interesting...I know his successor will get all the blame for ruining a great thing, but I think he's ruining it, while being praised for elevating it.
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Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:26 pm to EastNastySwag
Iron-clad waivers?????? Are you serious? No such thing as that in the court room. Sure some contracts are extremely hard to break, but they are breakable if you get the right lawyer, the right judge, the right timing.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:27 pm to EastNastySwag
you can't argue that fans will watch no matter what, but then argue that they had to dilute the product lest they lose the fans...and that is what many argue (not you specifically)
they could move forward protecting themselves without sacrificing anything from the product.
quote:those lawsuits weren't bankrupting a $9 billion machine (annual earnings)
I love the hits too, but why subject yourself to further erosion of your financial stability when the lawyers and media are running full bore on concussions
they could move forward protecting themselves without sacrificing anything from the product.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:29 pm to EastNastySwag
high school football was often used by my legal professor as a perfect example of "implied consent"
and yes, there are things such as iron clad waivers. Sasha Boren Cohen's lawyers are living proof.
and yes, there are things such as iron clad waivers. Sasha Boren Cohen's lawyers are living proof.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:30 pm to DelU249
Easy for you say when it is not your money. Just give them the money and they will go away? That is just absurd.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:33 pm to EastNastySwag
do you honestly believe those lawsuits threatened to bankrupt the league? That was never a concern. The concern was the public image of football moving forward. People being steered away from it at an early age, etc.
it was entirely a PR battle, but in so many other instances the league's reaction has been "frick you, we're the NFL"
and you're right, it's not my money. They're just getting less of my money. Merchandising, viewership, tickets, etc. less viewership, less money. We'll see at the end of Goodell's tenure, but anyone trying to sell me a bag full of "goodell made the NFL a juggernaut" is going to get laughed out of the room.
it was entirely a PR battle, but in so many other instances the league's reaction has been "frick you, we're the NFL"
and you're right, it's not my money. They're just getting less of my money. Merchandising, viewership, tickets, etc. less viewership, less money. We'll see at the end of Goodell's tenure, but anyone trying to sell me a bag full of "goodell made the NFL a juggernaut" is going to get laughed out of the room.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:34 pm to EastNastySwag
quote:BTW, that's precisely what they did
Just give them the money
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:39 pm to DelU249
Wrong they settled when the numbers were so advantageous to NFL. you'd be dumb not to settle on those terms to make it go away. Until a judge fricked that up. Good, use your own pocketbook to make a statement, but don't be a dumbass about blaming Goodell for implementing the concussion based changes. Blame the scumbag lawyers.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:40 pm to wildtigercat93
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Goodell on the other hand sets traps to catch these teams doing it and makes it public so he gets all the "sheriff" glory, even if it compromises the image of the shield
Nailed it. He is more Thor than Bond. He feels like if he makes an example of a team everyone else will get in line, and that will save him from having to investigate 31 other teams.
I don't know if this explicitly applies to Bountygate, but when I see what's happening with say, Josh Gordon, I can't help but think the league is setting an example. Yeah the guy can't stay away from the good life, but are you tellinng me he's the only one out of 1600+ players that gets fricked up on a regular basis?
Posted on 1/26/15 at 12:54 pm to DelU249
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More profitable, butwhy? Do you know anything about the length of television contracts and how they're negotiated. The product has suffered. Virtually every NFL agrees with this. You won't see immediate consequences but the foundation is being eroded
Exactly. The whole referee strike probably brought even more attention to the league for a short period of time, but in the long term, it hurts the reputation of the league and isn't worth the damage. It's like that time Glenn Beck went on Fox and basically said Islam was going to take over Europe after the Arab Spring, fascinating, hilarious, and not the sort of thing a serious news broadcaster wants their name associated with. Wouldn't be surprised to find Judge Pierro, with her lovely big fake tits and plastic face on Beck's network soon.
I mean, seriously, how do you piss off referees to the point where they'll strike? They're some of the dullest men in the world.
Just because the NFL is still profitable, doesn't mean it's being run correctly. A Ferrari still goes fast in 3rd gear when you frick up the clutch timing. Goodell, honestly, is he modelling himself on Vince McMahon's Monday Night Raw character? That's someone he could probably take lessons from on how to run an organization.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 1:55 pm to Mephistopheles
I used to watch any game on TV, now I only watch the Saints and I'll catch parts of games. One day this year I turned on the Falcons-Steelers and turned it off after the roughing the passer on Ryan, then later that day there was another game I turned on and there was a roughing the passer on Russell Wilson and that was enough for me. What fans need to understand is that when Rog and the owners speak of the shield they are talking about 33 people and the rest is just parts to the machine. They own it and he runs the money maker for them. They could care less about the players or fans and if you think they care than you are kidding yourself.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 3:46 pm to DelU249
How is settling not giving them the money?
Seriously, the shite I read on this board.
Seriously, the shite I read on this board.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 3:56 pm to DelU249
quote:You'll be homeless imo. The NFL will probably have a team in London by that time. This thing is going international, its not dwindling.
I'd bet the house on a decline in ratings by the time the current TV contracts expire.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:10 pm to DelU249
quote:
and you're right, it's not my money. They're just getting less of my money. Merchandising, viewership, tickets, etc. less viewership, less money. We'll see at the end of Goodell's tenure, but anyone trying to sell me a bag full of "goodell made the NFL a juggernaut" is going to get laughed out of the room.
Exactly. Things that I have bought in the past that I won't even consider buying until Roger Goodell is no longer the commissioner:
Saints tickets (season or single, primary or secondary market)
NFL Sunday Ticket
Going to a sports bar that has Sunday Ticket all afternoon
All NFL-licensed merchandise, including jerseys, t-shirts, footballs, cups and mugs, bobbleheads, etc.
Products that have exclusive corporate sponsorship contracts with the NFL, including Verizon, DirecTV, Pepsi, Microsoft Surface, Bose, Anheuser-Busch, Gatorade, General Motors, and McDonalds
I'm done with them. All of them. For the forseeable future. I haven't even watched the NFL Network with the exception of some Thursday Night games.
Posted on 1/26/15 at 4:35 pm to boom roasted
You know how hard it is to eliminate McDonalds when you have a child under 10 on nights when you don't have time to cook?
Posted on 1/26/15 at 5:46 pm to BRgetthenet
quote:
He's literally run the game into the ground.
Nah, it's now a passing league
Posted on 1/27/15 at 11:23 am to JackVincennes
With his salary of $40M, and break that down to mthly payments to get a better perspective on just how much that is, Goodell probably could care less about what Tags may have to say about him. The really sad thing is about him is consider just how old/young he is. He's going to be around for a long time. Pick your reasons, but the game has changed, specifically the product on the field & the cost to view a game, live and/or on tv, is going to keep climbing through the roof. I am nowhere near a fan as I used to be.
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