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The NYC Subway Had 250 Felonies Per Week in the 80s
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:44 pm to BigOrangeBri
All I could think looking at those pics was "WARRIORS come out and plaaayaayy!"
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:45 pm to BigOrangeBri
The improvement in crime in New York and LA is stunning
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:47 pm to BigOrangeBri
I be dammed if I didn't think about the Warriors movie right away
This post was edited on 1/25/15 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:47 pm to BigOrangeBri
I haven't been on a NYC subway since 1990.
Have they improved for this is exactly how I still perceive them to be.
Have they improved for this is exactly how I still perceive them to be.
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:48 pm to usc6158
A lot of people bitch about it, but NY's success largely came from the City's attack on minor crimes, under the theory that a general battle against all criminality would slow down the serious crimes. It worked.
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:49 pm to BigOrangeBri
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250 Felonies Per Week
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:49 pm to BigOrangeBri
My in-laws swear up and down The Warriors wasn't far off the mark. You should watch it if that interets you.
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:51 pm to East Coast Band
Great article on how New York cleaned the city up:
NY Jumps on Crime
NY Jumps on Crime
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Unlike many cities’ crime problems, New York’s were not limited to a few inner-city neighborhoods that could be avoided. Bryant Park, in the heart of midtown and adjacent to the New York Public Library, was an open-air drug market; Grand Central Terminal, a gigantic flophouse; the Port Authority Bus Terminal, “a grim gauntlet for bus passengers dodging beggars, drunks, thieves, and destitute drug addicts,” as the New York Times put it in 1992. In July 1985, the Citizens Crime Commission of New York City published a study showing widespread fear of theft and assault in downtown Brooklyn, Fordham Road in the Bronx, and Jamaica Center in Queens. Riders abandoned the subway in droves, fearing assault from lunatics and gangs.
New York’s drop in crime during the 1990s was correspondingly astonishing—indeed, “one of the most remarkable stories in the history of urban crime,” according to University of California law professor Franklin Zimring. While other cities experienced major declines, none was as steep as New York’s. Most of the criminologists’ explanations for it—the economy, changing drug-use patterns, demographic changes—have not withstood scrutiny. Readers of City Journal will be familiar with the stronger argument that the New York Police Department’s adoption of quality-of-life policing and of such accountability measures as Compstat was behind the city’s crime drop.
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:52 pm to achenator
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All I could think looking at those pics was "WARRIORS come out and plaaayaayy!"
That's funny. I watched part of that movie for the first time a few days ago
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:54 pm to chinhoyang
Quality of life policing worked in NYC. Fare jumpers, vandals, graffiti artists, petty thieves, grifters, drunks and other ne'er do wells were no longer ignored by law enforcement. On the OT, we would say (I've been guilty of this) "don't they have something better to do" when in fact it works.
NOLA could use some quality of life policing.
NOLA could use some quality of life policing.
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:56 pm to BigOrangeBri
Nov. 29, 1994, is the day the murder record was broken in New Orleans. There were 28 more murders before the year ended.
Police robbed stores and killed other officers.
Police killed witnesses and other police that knew of their crimes. In daylight.
I can't imagine if there had been subways.
Police robbed stores and killed other officers.
Police killed witnesses and other police that knew of their crimes. In daylight.
I can't imagine if there had been subways.
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:59 pm to BigOrangeBri
Bernie goetz says hello.
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:00 pm to BigOrangeBri
Lived in Manhattan 82-97 and can personally testify that it was, indeed, extremely crazy.
Got bled on from a guy that was knife fighting on the subway once...
Rudy Giuliani is the one who cleaned all that up.
Got bled on from a guy that was knife fighting on the subway once...
Rudy Giuliani is the one who cleaned all that up.
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:00 pm to East Coast Band
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I haven't been on a NYC subway since 1990.
Have they improved for this is exactly how I still perceive them to be.
They look way better than this now. No graffiti and a lot newer
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:00 pm to BigOrangeBri
quote:I'm 42 and when I was a kid my parents had that movie. ON BETA lol.
That's funny. I watched part of that movie for the first time a few days ago
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:01 pm to BigOrangeBri
the stuff nightmares are made out of
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:02 pm to chinhoyang
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the Port Authority Bus Terminal, “a grim gauntlet for bus passengers dodging beggars, drunks, thieves, and destitute drug addicts
Don't worry that hasn't changed. PABT is the last holdout of old NYC. When I worked around there I'd get hit up for money, solicited for female companionship all the time.
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:04 pm to BigOrangeBri
What worked is locking felons up.
Everybody whines about all the poor babies locked up, but guess what?
Crime falls.
Everywhere.
Everybody whines about all the poor babies locked up, but guess what?
Crime falls.
Everywhere.
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:06 pm to BigOrangeBri
John Rocker: I told you so.
This post was edited on 1/25/15 at 8:10 pm
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