Started By
Message

The NYC Subway Had 250 Felonies Per Week in the 80s

Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:43 pm
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12264 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:43 pm
Crazy. Here's a photo gallery

NYC Subway in the 80s












This post was edited on 1/25/15 at 8:35 pm
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
2944 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:44 pm to
All I could think looking at those pics was "WARRIORS come out and plaaayaayy!"
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35320 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:45 pm to
The improvement in crime in New York and LA is stunning
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:47 pm to
I be dammed if I didn't think about the Warriors movie right away
This post was edited on 1/25/15 at 7:47 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62727 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:47 pm to
I haven't been on a NYC subway since 1990.
Have they improved for this is exactly how I still perceive them to be.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23315 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:48 pm to
A lot of people bitch about it, but NY's success largely came from the City's attack on minor crimes, under the theory that a general battle against all criminality would slow down the serious crimes. It worked.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

250 Felonies Per Week


Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20869 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:49 pm to


My in-laws swear up and down The Warriors wasn't far off the mark. You should watch it if that interets you.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23315 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:51 pm to
Great article on how New York cleaned the city up:

NY Jumps on Crime

quote:

Unlike many cities’ crime problems, New York’s were not limited to a few inner-city neighborhoods that could be avoided. Bryant Park, in the heart of midtown and adjacent to the New York Public Library, was an open-air drug market; Grand Central Terminal, a gigantic flophouse; the Port Authority Bus Terminal, “a grim gauntlet for bus passengers dodging beggars, drunks, thieves, and destitute drug addicts,” as the New York Times put it in 1992. In July 1985, the Citizens Crime Commission of New York City published a study showing widespread fear of theft and assault in downtown Brooklyn, Fordham Road in the Bronx, and Jamaica Center in Queens. Riders abandoned the subway in droves, fearing assault from lunatics and gangs.


New York’s drop in crime during the 1990s was correspondingly astonishing—indeed, “one of the most remarkable stories in the history of urban crime,” according to University of California law professor Franklin Zimring. While other cities experienced major declines, none was as steep as New York’s. Most of the criminologists’ explanations for it—the economy, changing drug-use patterns, demographic changes—have not withstood scrutiny. Readers of City Journal will be familiar with the stronger argument that the New York Police Department’s adoption of quality-of-life policing and of such accountability measures as Compstat was behind the city’s crime drop.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12264 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

All I could think looking at those pics was "WARRIORS come out and plaaayaayy!"


That's funny. I watched part of that movie for the first time a few days ago
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23315 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:54 pm to
Quality of life policing worked in NYC. Fare jumpers, vandals, graffiti artists, petty thieves, grifters, drunks and other ne'er do wells were no longer ignored by law enforcement. On the OT, we would say (I've been guilty of this) "don't they have something better to do" when in fact it works.

NOLA could use some quality of life policing.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:56 pm to
Nov. 29, 1994, is the day the murder record was broken in New Orleans. There were 28 more murders before the year ended.

Police robbed stores and killed other officers.

Police killed witnesses and other police that knew of their crimes. In daylight.

I can't imagine if there had been subways.
Posted by fontell
Montgomery
Member since Sep 2006
4445 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:59 pm to
Bernie goetz says hello.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10964 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:00 pm to
Lived in Manhattan 82-97 and can personally testify that it was, indeed, extremely crazy.

Got bled on from a guy that was knife fighting on the subway once...

Rudy Giuliani is the one who cleaned all that up.
Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
Member since Aug 2012
7292 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

I haven't been on a NYC subway since 1990.
Have they improved for this is exactly how I still perceive them to be.


They look way better than this now. No graffiti and a lot newer
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
2944 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

That's funny. I watched part of that movie for the first time a few days ago
I'm 42 and when I was a kid my parents had that movie. ON BETA lol.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421540 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:01 pm to


the stuff nightmares are made out of
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20869 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:02 pm to
quote:

the Port Authority Bus Terminal, “a grim gauntlet for bus passengers dodging beggars, drunks, thieves, and destitute drug addicts


Don't worry that hasn't changed. PABT is the last holdout of old NYC. When I worked around there I'd get hit up for money, solicited for female companionship all the time.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28081 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:04 pm to
What worked is locking felons up.

Everybody whines about all the poor babies locked up, but guess what?
Crime falls.

Everywhere.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
33689 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 8:06 pm to
John Rocker: I told you so.
This post was edited on 1/25/15 at 8:10 pm
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 3Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram