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re: New replay review method to be tested at Pro Bowl

Posted on 1/25/15 at 9:45 am to
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76529 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 9:45 am to
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Next time their is a goalline defense/offense on the field for a soccer game with people getting thrown all over the place, let me know.





I don't think you know how soccer "replay" works.

Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 10:00 am to
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You'd need chips in both ends, plus chips around the fattest part of the ball in case the ball is parallel to the goal line.


Not really. Just need one chip wherever you want. All you need to know is it's placement on the football and it's heading, and then you'll know exactly where every part of the football is.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110934 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 10:02 am to
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Really? Makes sense to me.
How does it make sense? You shouldn't be penalized the use of a challenge because you had to use it because the official screwed up.

Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 10:02 am to
Why not just have reviews off-site like they do in rugby and hockey?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47668 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 10:08 am to
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Didn't the NCG have cameras in the plylons? Pro Bowl should try that out as well.


those are only there for the cool shot when the players are flying toward it for the touchdown and the thing goes flying...
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Not really. Just need one chip wherever you want. All you need to know is it's placement on the football and it's heading, and then you'll know exactly where every part of the football is.


Yep. Although you will need to account for different size balls when the pats play
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 10:12 am to
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quote: Yet somehow soccer got it right On the first try..

Next time their is a goalline defense/offense on the field for a soccer game with people getting thrown all over the place, let me know.


This is the exact scenario where you want a chip telling you where the ball is since no one can see into a pile.
Posted by motorbreath
New Orleans Saints fan
Member since Jun 2004
6381 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 10:55 am to
They should put body cameras on all players and officials on the field or sidelines too.
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 2:13 pm to
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hockey


Because Toronto likes to frick up just as much as any on-site/on-field replay official has. It's really embarrassing really that someone watching a replay can't get more calls correct.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 4:37 pm to
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Next time their is a goalline defense/offense on the field for a soccer game with people getting thrown all over the place, let me know


What does that have to do with technology in the ball? Soccer has it and it works was my point.

And you clearly have never watched a high lever soccer match to make that comment.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123639 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 4:41 pm to
Cameras in the pylons on the goaline

Best idea ever
This post was edited on 1/25/15 at 4:42 pm
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 5:03 pm to
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how about..oh i dont know..putting a chip in the ball for when it crosses the goal line?


If not that, at least some sort of laser across the goal line for reviews
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 5:07 pm to
ABC World News has a special with the scientists talking about deflate gate
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 5:36 pm to
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And you clearly have never watched a high lever soccer match to make that comment.


2 or 3 guys going into the net with the ball is one thing. Goal line pileups can easily have 10 guys in a mess to obscure the ball and/or body parts which may or may not be in the ground. The area a soccer replay system has to cover is 8 yards horizontally. An American football system has to cover 55 yards (or something close, whatever it is). It is a much harder determination in American football than soccer. That's not to say there shouldn't be more and better angles though.
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 6:14 pm to
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This is the exact scenario where you want a chip telling you where the ball is since no one can see into a pile.


It won't make a difference unless this "chip" can determine whether the ball is dead, by rule, before the ball broke the plane of the GL. Then, there's the detection method...it can't be line of sight.
About every 3 months somebody brings up the same topic, but never addresses the pitfalls and shortcomings of the idea.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:46 pm to
I understand what your saying. .. but for soccer you have 2 officials in the area, one all the way on the touch line and the center.

Football has 7 or 8 officials in the zone on a goalline play.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18243 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 7:55 pm to
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Yet somehow soccer got it right On the first try..


Soccer doesn't use chips in the ball, unless they play with adidas balls. They use something very similar to tennis's shot spot hawk-eye cameras
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

I understand what your saying. .. but for soccer you have 2 officials in the area, one all the way on the touch line and the center.


And? Once you go to replay, the officials do not matter anymore.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 11:28 pm to
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About every 3 months somebody brings up the same topic, but never addresses the pitfalls and shortcomings of the idea.



Because it isn't a shortcoming. It's an additional tool
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 8:47 am to
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Or how about a camera exactly perpendicular to goal line instead of a slight angle.

how
hard
is
that




Seriously.

A camera above and behind each pylon facing down the goal line from both sides. Why has this not been done?
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