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re: OT car mechanics
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:29 pm to tt54l32v
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:29 pm to tt54l32v
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The only thing they can come back with in say a court situation is that you continued to drive it while it was hot. Up in the first paragraph is your counter for that. It is legit and true, easily verified by any mechanic.
Had a transmission replaced on my old truck and had to take back to them 3 times within about 2 weeks. It went out on interstate and transmission fluid was pouring out of the line b/c it broke. I called them next day and said I want my money back ($1800) and they said a transmission line breaking isn't their fault and maybe somebody doesn't like me and cut it
I went to file a claim in small claims court and their company had shut down about a week before. They filed bankruptcy iirc. I paid $1800 for a transmission to last about 2 weeks. Basically I quoted you b/c they mentioned that it was my fault also for driving it while it was leaking fluid, although I had no clue b/c when I got in my truck to drive it wasn't and I had just left mechanic shop right before their closing time.
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:29 pm to windshieldman
I had my whole cooling system replaced on my last truck. One week later driving down the highway truck starts to overheat I make it to side of road. Open up the hood coolant everywhere I was like frick. Radiator hose fell off putit back on had a jug of water in truck made it to gas station. Put in antifreeze everything was ok. Thank Jesus.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:33 pm to Will Cover
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I appreciate the body shop working with me to make it right, but I believe their idea of right is being done with minimal cost in mind
Yea, they need to get over it as far as worrying about how much its gonna cost after making a mistake like they made. That's what they have insurance for.
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The body shop has said they will warranty any work done by them for a lifetime, but what if electrical system goes out?
I'm not sure, I would just get mechanic at dealerships opinion if that's a possibility in future and if you should be worried about it. If he says yes, get it in writing and maybe even ask another mechanic somewhere else.
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Potentially, it's not a position I am comfortable putting myself in.
I wouldn't be either, but none of this is your fault. Hopefully they get you fixed up like they should do.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:38 pm to Will Cover
If the engine is locked up then it is over. There are no tests to be done. About the only thing that can be damaged other than the engine is O2 sensors and catalytic converters. Which is generally water damage from blown head gaskets. From what you have said it didnt have any water in it so should be good there.
It will probably get a junk yard engine so most every piece of the engine will different. Like sensors, spark plugs, wiring harness, etc.
It will probably get a junk yard engine so most every piece of the engine will different. Like sensors, spark plugs, wiring harness, etc.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:44 pm to Will Cover
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My original plan was to keep my vehicle for 10 years. Now I have concerns that I may be left stranded somewhere down the line or worse, my wife with our children.
Sorry, but if they get that car running, I would be getting rid of it ASAP.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:48 pm to WPBTiger
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Sorry, but if they get that car running, I would be getting rid of it ASAP.
If its done at a reputable dealership, it should be just fine. Haven't notice if he posted what kind of vehicle and year it is. The truck that transmission went out on I posted earlier had engine replaced about 6-7 years prior and was done cheaply and rebuilt. It was still running like a champ.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:55 pm to windshieldman
It's a 2011 Nissan Altima, V-6 3.5 liter CVT Transmission.
Vehicle has been great up until this point.
Vehicle has been great up until this point.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 1:00 pm to Will Cover
Engine is fricked. Even if they make the car run and tell you everything is okay, don't believe them. At minimum aluminum head is warped. With warped head/blown head gasket, car could still run but coolant will spit out from reservoir and you'll have overheating problems on the highway.
I'd demand a new longblock. They'll probably settle with you for used longblock from junkyard but new engine should be the negotiation starting point.
I'd demand a new longblock. They'll probably settle with you for used longblock from junkyard but new engine should be the negotiation starting point.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 1:03 pm to Will Cover
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It's a 2011 Nissan Altima, V-6 3.5 liter CVT Transmission
I just worked on a 2013 Altima a couple days ago. Those are good vehicles. I don't think you would have future electronic issues after an engine replacement down the road like a poster above said. Once engine gets replaced, preferably, at dealership, I think you will be just fine. Altima is a very underrated car in my opinion. The 2013 I just did, looked like a pretty basic engine and not alot of bells and whistles I guess you can say. Which to me, is a great thing, simple is usually better imo. I only look at engine to pull the cowl panel off and that's it though.
tt54l32v is poster I was referring to except I don't think you'll have to settle for junkyard parts. Get legal council, be friendly to auto body shop, talk to dealership, and get a new engine put in. If its a reputable body shop I think you will get fixed up the right way.
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 1:12 pm to Will Cover
I'd make them put a whole new crate motor in. At the least, you'll probably need a long block. DO NOT settle for a junkyard motor. You will regret it. Getting a junkyard engine is a crap shoot, and you could end up paying out of the arse to fix it down the line
This post was edited on 1/24/15 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 1/24/15 at 2:12 pm to Will Cover
quote:It's good that you have a good attitude about it; You are going to have problems down the road. You'd be wise to give up on that engine. There is an excellent chance you will develop a crack in that engine down the road.
We are human and mistakes happen. I
Posted on 1/24/15 at 3:16 pm to Will Cover
I have a paint and body shop. I have never had that happen, knock on wood, but we always let cars run for a solid 30-45 minutes after replacing any part of the cooling system. They are responsible to get you a new, or used engine with similar miles of the current one. We all carry insurance for things like that. If they areat all cconcerned with their reputation, they will be happy to do that for you.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 3:26 pm to Will Cover
There are quite a few yards that cater in complete low mileage take out engines. JDM take outs are reasonable and usually only have around 40k miles on them.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 4:10 pm to Will Cover
If they don't put a brand new engine in take them to small claims court for the cost to do so.
If the engine truly "locked up" or seized then it is toast. The high heat could have warped or heat stressed other components (heads, cams, valves). The metal to metal contact as a result of overheating and subsequent seizure has likely contaminated the oil system.
The "diesel" sound you heard was pre-ignition ("knock") as a result of overheating.
While you may be able to get the engine running again and change the oil and drive it, it won't ever have the same service life after even a partial seizure.
A visual inspection with a borescope via the spark plug hole can confirm the seizure. Compression and leak down tests can also be done to assess the damage.
Hope this helps.
If the engine truly "locked up" or seized then it is toast. The high heat could have warped or heat stressed other components (heads, cams, valves). The metal to metal contact as a result of overheating and subsequent seizure has likely contaminated the oil system.
The "diesel" sound you heard was pre-ignition ("knock") as a result of overheating.
While you may be able to get the engine running again and change the oil and drive it, it won't ever have the same service life after even a partial seizure.
A visual inspection with a borescope via the spark plug hole can confirm the seizure. Compression and leak down tests can also be done to assess the damage.
Hope this helps.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 5:47 pm to Will Cover
make and model please
If the car overheated to the point it changed the running of the car something catastrophic happened...
usually its the head gasket bn two siamesed cylinders. if the head is aluminum it could warp the head so that the overhead cams no longer turn freely.
the first thing you should have them so is produce some compression numbers. if you have a blown head gasket this will show up immediately
in the results.
I would also insist on a scope being inserted in the spark plug holes to inspect for gaulding of the cylinder walls and a leak down comprssion test of the cylinder rings
if you have a warped head the center cylinders will show a drop in compression
If the car overheated to the point it changed the running of the car something catastrophic happened...
usually its the head gasket bn two siamesed cylinders. if the head is aluminum it could warp the head so that the overhead cams no longer turn freely.
the first thing you should have them so is produce some compression numbers. if you have a blown head gasket this will show up immediately
in the results.
I would also insist on a scope being inserted in the spark plug holes to inspect for gaulding of the cylinder walls and a leak down comprssion test of the cylinder rings
if you have a warped head the center cylinders will show a drop in compression
Posted on 1/24/15 at 6:00 pm to Will Cover
You sure do have a lot of drama In your life ..
This post was edited on 1/24/15 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 1/24/15 at 6:02 pm to TigahRag
Talked to shop. Talked to dealership. Talked to a lawyer. Still needs OT mechanic opinions.
Maybe I under estimate this place.
Maybe I under estimate this place.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 6:08 pm to xLxSxUxFxAxNx
Nothing like coming to the Google copy & paste capital of the World Wide Web for solid info! Have you seen how many expert commercial airline pilots and NTSB investigative experts we have posting on here of late ?
Posted on 1/24/15 at 6:08 pm to Will Cover
I would get a compression test (to check for bad piston rings as well as burned valves) as well as a pressure test of the coolant system (to check for blown head gasket, warped head, etc.)...
additionally, I would get an oil sampla analyzed right away to set baseline and then an oil sample every couple of oil changes after that to check for bearing problems....
also would doccument current oil pressure at idle and at 2000 rpm along with the viscousity of oil being used and the ambient temperature...
no need in freaking out, but you have to keep a close eye on the car going forward...
additionally, I would get an oil sampla analyzed right away to set baseline and then an oil sample every couple of oil changes after that to check for bearing problems....
also would doccument current oil pressure at idle and at 2000 rpm along with the viscousity of oil being used and the ambient temperature...
no need in freaking out, but you have to keep a close eye on the car going forward...
Posted on 1/24/15 at 6:12 pm to Spankum
Or he could just wait until his onboard computer tells him if and when something's wrong ..
This post was edited on 1/24/15 at 6:13 pm
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