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re: Colston willing to take a Mild Pay cut to remain a Saints!
Posted on 1/20/15 at 10:56 pm to LaTexSaint
Posted on 1/20/15 at 10:56 pm to LaTexSaint
He needs a severe pay cut, his time has passed and we end cap space
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:12 pm to LaTexSaint
And this board continues its infinite wisdom in regards to one of the greatest Saints of all-time.
59 catches and 902 yards just grows on fricking trees in this league, and frick having a consistent, veteran presence in the locker room.
59 catches and 902 yards just grows on fricking trees in this league, and frick having a consistent, veteran presence in the locker room.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 11:41 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Colston at 6.7 or 7.7 cap hit, worth it?
I would think so. Graham is oft-injured and dinged up, Cooks still needs to grow into a complete receiver, Stills needs to be more consistent, Toon needs more experience with Brees, Meachem is gone, and now you guys want Colston gone.
He has inconsistent games and some bad drops/fumbles this year, but the guy can still produce solid numbers. Cutting him to profit 4.3mil while losing 5.4mil seems pointless. What WR would you replace his production with for 4.3mil?
I would think so. Graham is oft-injured and dinged up, Cooks still needs to grow into a complete receiver, Stills needs to be more consistent, Toon needs more experience with Brees, Meachem is gone, and now you guys want Colston gone.
He has inconsistent games and some bad drops/fumbles this year, but the guy can still produce solid numbers. Cutting him to profit 4.3mil while losing 5.4mil seems pointless. What WR would you replace his production with for 4.3mil?
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:50 am to LaTexSaint
I think it is very short sighted at best to think that the saints should cut Colston. One of the rare players in the league who played through his vastly underpaid rookie contract without holding out and all of the drama and fanfare that goes with it. I hope the Saints do all that they can to reward Colston for his hard work and dedication to this franchise.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 6:30 am to lsualum01
Also, I think the drops this year were a fluke. I was actually surprised at his ability to get open.
He has amazing hands his entire career and all of a sudden can't hold on to the ball? That isn't age
It is certainly worth it if he takes a $1+ million pay cut next year. Hell, it might be worth it to extend it 1 year, convert base salary into a signing bonus to push it down the line 2 years while the cap rises
He has amazing hands his entire career and all of a sudden can't hold on to the ball? That isn't age
It is certainly worth it if he takes a $1+ million pay cut next year. Hell, it might be worth it to extend it 1 year, convert base salary into a signing bonus to push it down the line 2 years while the cap rises
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 6:33 am
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:21 am to TigerBait1127
Also, I think the drops this year were a fluke.
This wasnt the first year of drops and fumbles. I can remember as far back as few years ago to the opening night vs the packers and then the 49er playoff game. He's not consistent anymore
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:24 am to whodat22
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This wasnt the first year of drops and fumbles
It really is. He had 1 fumble this year (really 2, but we got lucky). He has 10 total fumbles for his entire career with 4 coming in 1 season. So if you take out the high and low, he averages less than 1 fumble a year
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I can remember as far back as few years ago to the opening night vs the packers and then the 49er playoff game
He didn't have a fumble in the 49ers playoff game. Sproles had a muff, Roby had a fumbled kickoff, PT had a fumble when he broke his jaw, and Brees had 2 picks.
He's had a fumble in a few opening games, but this really was the 1st year they were a problem and not a small occurence
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 8:52 am
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:26 am to TigerBait1127
Did he really drop that many?
Rank Name Team Stats
1t Kelvin Benjamin Car 10
1t Steve Smith Sr. Bal 10
3t Mohamed Sanu Cin 9
3t Demaryius Thomas Den 9
3t Reggie Wayne Ind 9
6t Julian Edelman NE 8
6t Jimmy Graham NO 8
6t Andre Roberts Was 8
9t Martellus Bennett Chi 7
9t Anquan Boldin SF 7
9t Dwayne Bowe KC 7
9t Marques Colston NO 7
9t Michael Crabtree SF 7
9t Rob Gronkowski NE 7
9t T.Y. Hilton Ind 7
9t Lamar Miller Mia 7
17t Dwayne Allen Ind 6
17t Jace Amaro NYJ 6
17t Matt Asiata Min 6
17t Jamaal Charles KC 6
17t Randall Cobb GB 6
17t Victor Cruz NYG 6
17t Andre Ellington Ari 6
17t Andre Holmes Oak 6
17t Allen Hurns Jax 6
17t Jordan Matthews Phi 6
17t Alfred Morris Was 6
17t Louis Murphy Jr. TB 6
17t Mychal Rivera Oak 6
17t Torrey Smith Bal 6
17t Roddy White Atl 6
Rank Name Team Stats
1t Kelvin Benjamin Car 10
1t Steve Smith Sr. Bal 10
3t Mohamed Sanu Cin 9
3t Demaryius Thomas Den 9
3t Reggie Wayne Ind 9
6t Julian Edelman NE 8
6t Jimmy Graham NO 8
6t Andre Roberts Was 8
9t Martellus Bennett Chi 7
9t Anquan Boldin SF 7
9t Dwayne Bowe KC 7
9t Marques Colston NO 7
9t Michael Crabtree SF 7
9t Rob Gronkowski NE 7
9t T.Y. Hilton Ind 7
9t Lamar Miller Mia 7
17t Dwayne Allen Ind 6
17t Jace Amaro NYJ 6
17t Matt Asiata Min 6
17t Jamaal Charles KC 6
17t Randall Cobb GB 6
17t Victor Cruz NYG 6
17t Andre Ellington Ari 6
17t Andre Holmes Oak 6
17t Allen Hurns Jax 6
17t Jordan Matthews Phi 6
17t Alfred Morris Was 6
17t Louis Murphy Jr. TB 6
17t Mychal Rivera Oak 6
17t Torrey Smith Bal 6
17t Roddy White Atl 6
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:49 am to Sparkplug#1
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Did he really drop that many?
He dropped them in key situations. I doubt he has as many targets as a lot of the guys on the list either.
But that is also kind of the point. It stood out b/c he has always rarely dropped the ball
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:51 am to TigerBait1127
We all think of Bill B as the best coach in football.
What do yall think Bill would do with Colston?
What do yall think Bill would do with Colston?
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:55 am to goatmilker
quote:
We all think of Bill B as the best coach in football.
What do yall think Bill would do with Colston?
I think he would try to get him to take a pay cut and let him go if he doesn't.
His contract sets up better to be cut next season, not this season. A lot of dead money. A slight discount this year easily makes it worth it.
We aren't going to get better production from a FA without paying at least $5+ million/year.
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 9:01 am
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:57 am to whodat22
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This wasnt the first year of drops and fumbles.
Here's his drop % for the last 5 season and where it ranks:
2014 - 11.94% - 44th
2013 - 3.85% - 4th
2012 - 8.79% - 13th
2011 - 2.44% - 2nd
2010 - 9.68% - 25th
He didn't go from 4th to 44th b/c of 1 offseason of aging. He also seemed to play better down the stretch
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 9:03 am
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:17 am to htran90
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Colston at 6.7 or 7.7 cap hit, worth it?
I would think so. Don't know how accurate sportstrac is, but his cap hit of $9.7M in 2015 will put him tied for 12th just ahead of Brandon Marashall & Victor Cruz. Dropping to $6.7-7.7 puts him 17-19th range w/ Boldin, Decker & Steve Johnson.
Honestly, when looking at the list; I am ore inclined to think he is properly being compensated
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:18 am to Weekend Warrior79
And per overthecap, his average has him ranked 15th just ahead of Decker & Steve Johnson
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:16 am to LaTexSaint
While he's been a great player for the Saints, I wonder if he's a starting receiver any longer. He had some crucial drops last year and he's ony getting older.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:40 am to Jake88
He's not a #1 recv any more thats for sure.
CSP puts Jimmy out wide covered by a teams #1 CB.
Leaves us with Colston or Stills as our #1 option at wideout. Just not going to get open a lot if your depending on those two. We will see how CSP uses Cooks next year. And Stills is still young and could have more upside yet.
I hope we get a veteran FA recv to bolster the WR corp. Nothing cap busting but someone who shaves at least.
CSP puts Jimmy out wide covered by a teams #1 CB.
Leaves us with Colston or Stills as our #1 option at wideout. Just not going to get open a lot if your depending on those two. We will see how CSP uses Cooks next year. And Stills is still young and could have more upside yet.
I hope we get a veteran FA recv to bolster the WR corp. Nothing cap busting but someone who shaves at least.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 10:04 am to goatmilker
Putting him as the slot 3rd would mean less wear and tear and letting stills/cooks become the next nelson/Cobb. Lol too hopeful.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:27 pm to LaTexSaint
He's still got some game left no doubt. 
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