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Posted on 1/16/15 at 2:48 pm
Posted by DelU249
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Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 1/16/15 at 2:50 pm to
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who thumbs through a dvd collection and goes "oooh, chariots of fire"? No one that's who



Chariots of Fire is an art house flick?
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 1/16/15 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:01 pm to
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academy art house flicks


Never heard of this genre.
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:05 pm to
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who thumbs through a dvd collection and goes "oooh, chariots of fire"?
Me. I watch it about once a year. Plenty of great performances and a great score.

Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
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Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:06 pm to
Although I have a similar criticism of films "Made for Oscar Consumption."

See:
A Beautiful Mind
Million Dollar Baby
Crash
Mystic River



Whoever watches that crud again?
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:07 pm to
What's wrong with a movie just being a featured performance? The Oscars are about awarding the best of the year, not what will be mostly fondly remembered 20 years from now.
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:27 pm to
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Although I have a similar criticism of films "Made for Oscar Consumption."
I agree completely. I hate how the Academy is essentially spoon fed everything that they are supposed to love by the studios. Rarely does a movie sneak in like Pirates of the Carribean. Even the ones for supporting Oscars seem to have the same formula.
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:30 pm to
I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at. I guess it depends on what you mean by art house movies. It kind of sounds like you are claiming that sophisticated and complex movies aren't worth the time or any good. It just sounds kind of stupid.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
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Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

Although I have a similar criticism of films "Made for Oscar Consumption."

See:
A Beautiful Mind
Million Dollar Baby
Crash
Mystic River


I would agree with this. It's manipulative mass market crap oftentimes with a shallow phony agenda, and really just generally really bad, insincere art.
Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 1/16/15 at 3:40 pm to
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anyone want to tell me that "capote" was nothing more than a film made to feature a performance?



I thought it was about the writing of In Cold Blood? I think this movie is probably more enjoyable if you've seen In Cold Blood. It kind works as a companion piece to it.
Posted by Superior Pariah
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Posted on 1/16/15 at 4:28 pm to
You are referring to "Oscar bait" movies. Those are not art house flicks.
Posted by Melvin
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Posted on 1/16/15 at 4:31 pm to
Wait, is A Beautiful Mind a movie that everyone is supposed to hate? I love that movie.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 1/16/15 at 4:53 pm to
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Wait, is A Beautiful Mind a movie that everyone is supposed to hate? I love that movie.


It isn't about "liking" or "hating" a film, it's about the idea of the film being constructed simply to win an award (consequently that means some people dislike it immensely, yes. See Crash).

I just feel like, even if the first draft was good, that the people involved in making A Beautiful Mind sat around a table and debated film elements as they relate to "Award Season," rather than "Good narrative." It just feels.... overproduced? Maybe that's the wrong word.... empty, but well produced? I don't know.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:36 pm to
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isn't about "liking" or "hating" a film, it's about the idea of the film being constructed simply to win an award (consequently that means some people dislike it immensely, yes. See Crash).



And it's why they don't resonate. They don't last, and they'll always suck. "Doubt" being a great example.

Yes, Oscar bait is more fitting, but I'm annoyed at art house flicks being predominately featured
Posted by Bham4Tide
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 12:20 am to
I get what you are saying. Out of Africa sucked balls and definitely does not stand the test of time - and was an Academy Award Winner.

Amadeus would be considered art house - but It's awesome. I do own a copy of it.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 12:28 am to
Doubt is a great film. I probably watch it once a year, which is on par with most movies of yesteryear that I'm fond of.

I'll watch Michael Clayton at any given opportunity and never get tired of it.

I
Posted by Celery
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 12:36 am to
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It isn't about "liking" or "hating" a film, it's about the idea of the film being constructed simply to win an award


I see what your saying. But who wouldn't make a movie hoping it wins awards.
Worse are films just constructed simply to make money.
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 1:47 am to
People will be watching Saving Private Ryan in 100 years and I've never come across Shakespeare In Love on TV in my entire life.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 2:09 am to
That's a great example



It's a visual medium. if it doesn't last, it wasnt the best
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