SA M1A SOCOM II

That's a pretty good price, neat guns and smooth shooters.

That's a pretty decent price. I paid 1450 for my M1A Scout a couple of years back and it only came with 1 10 round magazine.

For that price, for a SOCOM II and 3 mags, I'd get it.

quote:

---

Cool guns, but I always wondered why someone would want such a short barrel for a .308.

---

I guess the same thought with carbine AR's. Better versatility for close quarter combat? I wonder how much the accuracy suffers out to distance if at all with that shorter barrel. I think the shorter barrels look superior but prlly do nothing for it as far as function.

quote:

---

I guess the same thought with carbine AR's

---

Most AR rounds were designed to shoot out of a carbine length barrel.

correct

i think the velocity loss from 22" to 16" is less than 50 fps. to me the only downside to the the shorter barrel is that it is LOUD...really loud

BTW, for everyone else, I just browsed that site. There are some damn good deals on firearms there.

It's a 16" .308. Nope

Okay but yours is a free floated direct gas system with what looks like a thicker barrel than the tacticool M1A in the OP. it can work with the right system but from what I've read, most people barely get 4-5 MOA at 100 with the SOCOM. I just don't get the point. 18" is my bare minimum for a .308 and that would only be for a bolt rifle or free floated AR.

It'll be loud, but you don't loose much performance vs a 20" barrel and like someone mentioned earlier, short barrels are stiffer than longer barrels of the same contour and can potentially shoot better.