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Robots are starting to break the law and nobody knows what to do about it
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:02 pm
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Maybe it’s a sign that robots are growing up, and thus hitting the rebellious stage.
The Random Darknet Shopper, an automated online shopping bot with a budget of $100 a week in Bitcoin, is programmed to do a very specific task: go to one particular marketplace on the Deep Web and make one random purchase a week with the provided allowance. The purchases have all been compiled for an art show in Zurich, Switzerland titled The Darknet: From Memes to Onionland, which runs through January 11.
The concept would be all gravy if not for one thing: the programmers came home one day to find a shipment of 10 ecstasy pills, followed by an apparently very legit falsified Hungarian passport– developments which have left some observers of the bot’s blog a little uneasy.
If this bot was shipping to the U.S., asks Forbes contributor and University of Washington law professor contributor Ryan Calo, who would be legally responsible for purchasing the goodies? The coders? Or the bot itself?
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Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:04 pm to Jim Rockford
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If this bot was shipping to the U.S., asks Forbes contributor and University of Washington law professor contributor Ryan Calo, who would be legally responsible for purchasing the goodies? The coders? Or the bot itself?
I'd be very interested to know the definitive answer to this.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:04 pm to Jim Rockford
This is a modern day version of "I didnt kill him, the bullet did."
ETA: To expand on that. If you coded a script to buy drugs online, then its on you.
ETA: To expand on that. If you coded a script to buy drugs online, then its on you.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:05 pm to Jim Rockford
Here's a crazy thought.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:05 pm to Jim Rockford
Apparently A.I. will also be fans of hookers and blow...
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:06 pm to Jim Rockford
I bot he's just trying to have a good time.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:06 pm to Box Geauxrilla
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To expand on that. If you coded a script to buy drugs online, then its on you.
That's not what they did, though.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:10 pm to GRTiger
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That's not what they did, though
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Is programmed to do a very specific task: go to one particular marketplace on the Deep Web and make one random purchase a week with the provided allowance.
Am I missing something?
If you've programmed something to ship things to your house from a website that has drugs for sale, it's on you.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:11 pm to Jim Rockford
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10 ecstasy pills, followed by an apparently very legit falsified Hungarian passport
officer, I don't know what happened...the robot must have bought it....yeah, that's the ticket...the robot bought it
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:13 pm to Jim Rockford
It is the coders. If not, what would prevent me from writing the same code with a bias for purchasing illegal things?
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:13 pm to Box Geauxrilla
I mean, how long did they think it could make "random" purchases on "a particular marketplace on the deep web" without some of those purchases running afoul of the law?
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:14 pm to Box Geauxrilla
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This is a modern day version of "I didnt kill him, the bullet did."
ETA: To expand on that. If you coded a script to buy drugs online, then its on you.
and if i buy the code aka the gun.. who is it on?
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:18 pm to bmy
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and if i buy the code aka the gun.. who is it on?
Whoever pulls the trigger aka executes the script
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:21 pm to Jim Rockford
What were they expecting if the shopping pool is only the deep web?? There a reason the things are for sale on THE DEEP WEB and not the everyday web
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:26 pm to Box Geauxrilla
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Am I missing something?
Yes...
This
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If you coded a script to buy drugs online
and this
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If you've programmed something to ship things to your house from a website that has drugs for sale
are not the same.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:26 pm to Jim Rockford
If we start giving them rights, know what they're going to be like in 50 years?
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:29 pm to Jim Rockford
I'm a little relieved that our future overlords like to party.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:31 pm to Jim Rockford
I know what to do about it. Take ecstasy and travel to Hungary
Posted on 1/14/15 at 5:35 pm to Box Geauxrilla
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Whoever pulls the trigger aka executes the script
so what criminal charges do you place against someone who executed a script that buys random goods.
basically, it boils down to the same damn thing as internet piracy.. who is responsible? the person torrenting (through VPNs and proxies etc) that is basically untrackable.. or do they go after a company in a country located somewhere and europe and attempt to extradite?
Posted on 1/14/15 at 6:09 pm to bmy
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so what criminal charges do you place against someone who executed a script that buys random goods.
I would imagine there is some shared responsibility here. Firstly, the website advertising illegal drugs and acting as the moderator of the sale of illegal drugs, secondly it would fall on the person who executed a script to buy things from a pool of products that includes illegal drugs.
ETA: Is this really hard for you guys to understand or are you arguing for the sake of it? Am I getting trolled?
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 6:10 pm
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