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Will Jameis Winston Be a Better Pro Than Jamarcus Russell?

Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:56 pm
Posted by goldenbadger08
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:56 pm
Both big mobile guys, strong arms, coached by Jimbo Fisher with maturity issues coming out of college. I say he'll be better than Russell but not as good as Cam (playoff game winner.)

Mel Kiper said he'd take Winston #1 overall, but he also said Jamarcus Russell would be a top 5 QB and "John Elway-like" so...

What say you?

Posted by S
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:56 pm to
he'll probably have a longer career
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:56 pm to
I'll say sure, why not, even if only based on how low the bar is set.
Posted by PurpGold 14-0
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:58 pm to
yes /thread.
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:59 pm to
Yes. Not a high bar.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:59 pm to
how could he be worse?
Posted by goldenbadger08
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

Not a high bar.
3 years in the league, 25 games started, +4,000 yards, 18td-23int, 52 comp%…
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:11 pm to
So basically the question is which one is dumber?
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:12 pm to
yea, that's a pretty low bar
Posted by goldenbadger08
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:14 pm to
Yeah but three years is quite a while to expect Winston to stay out of trouble too..
Posted by mattz1122
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:15 pm to
Russell really wasn't all that mobile. Flynn was more mobile.
Posted by KindaRaw
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

Mel Kiper said he'd take Winston #1 overall, but he also said Jamarcus Russell would be a top 5 QB and "John Elway-like" so...

No surprise that Mel Kiper is wrong about what he said. After all, this dude is wrong 99% of the time.

That being said, Winston will not only be better than JR, but he will have a much longer career as a backup.
Posted by lsuguru
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:18 pm to
He's gonna have a rude awakening if he thinks he can yell at his NFL coaches and teammates like he did in college. I see him getting into a fight his rookie year.
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

3 years in the league, 25 games started, +4,000 yards, 18td-23int, 52 comp%…

Are these stats supposed to show a high bar?
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:26 pm to
I've never considered comparing the two. Russell is my favorite college football player of all-time. I bought his jersey the day after he led the comeback against Oregon State in the 2004 opener. I cried tears of joy after he lept across the goal line.

But I remember hearing that Jimbo was pissed at JR the end of the year, and he didn't even want him to travel with the team to the Capital One Bowl. Flynn came in behind Randall, which gave that rumor some credit. Then JR came in and led an awesome comeback that a lot of people forget because of the Hail Mary by Iowa.

My point is that Jimbo has been easier on Winston through what seems to be worse stuff, so I am assuming he sees more in him. I could obviously be way off base here though.
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 4:28 pm
Posted by blzr
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

Both big mobile guys


Jameis is a Birmingham guy, nowhere near Mobile
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

He's gonna have a rude awakening if he thinks he can yell at his NFL coaches and teammates like he did in college. I see him getting into a fight his rookie year.


I don't know man. All his FSU teammates followed him from the jump. Apparently, when he squints at you with those rapey eyes, you just melt. You literally can't say no to the guy.
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:38 pm to


I've heard he was a good leader.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:51 pm to
Basically the question here is if Winston can stay out of prison.
Posted by Billy Mays
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:52 pm to
EJ Manuel had a better career than Offthemarcus and he got benched for Kyle Orton this year.
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