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M&M staying one more year?

Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:00 am
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:00 am
I know the chances are really low that both martin and mickey stay for another year.

What are the chances one of them stays? From what I've seen mickey is the one with the most potential to make the jump although I've seen a lot of good things from Martin.

Highly unlikely but crazy starting 5 if they stayed: gray, Blakeney, martin, Mickey, and Simmons

They would be a little small but man they would be able to run with the best of them
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70943 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:03 am to
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What are the chances one of them stays?


1 of them staying: ~20%

Both staying: <5%
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25627 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:03 am to
Outside of Gray, how is that small?
7 footers aren't that important in college, and we have 1 of them if needed.
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
4573 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:04 am to
It will depend on how this season plays out.. If they go far but feel there is a much greater chance to go even deeper next year without hurting their draft stock, then they may stay. The chances of both staying are unlikely, IMO, though.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70943 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:05 am to
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7 footers aren't that important in college, and we have 1 of them if needed.



7 footers? not important

Competent post players? very important.

Even if Elbert makes a huge jump next season, we'd still be lacking a lot of depth down low if both Martin and Mickey leave.
Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
Member since Sep 2003
57656 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:16 am to
quote:

1 of them staying: ~20%

Both staying: <5%


if we have the season we are capable of having, I agree with this assessment. Martin is not even on many draft boards as of right now, but I expect him to catapult into the top 15 of the first round. Watching him play this season has been fun. His athleticism for a 6'10" player is very unique, and I think he will be a better play in the NBA than he is in college.

Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30365 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:18 am to
Martin is gone. Too big, with too good a skill set. They'll teach him tough just like they did Bynum and Drummond, who both came in soft.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70943 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:19 am to
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They'll teach him tough just like they did Bynum and Drummond


Out of curiosity, why did you use 2 centers as a comparison?
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18664 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:20 am to
It is a pipe dream that both stay, but could you imagine what kind of team we would have with them and the incoming freshman we have signed.
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:25 am to
Martin should stay. I think bases on what I have seen this year, that he will not project to the 1st round as some have mentioned.

he is super athletic but has a hard time finishing in traffic unless he is in position to dunk. He has a very low basketball IQ and his shot must improve (it is very inconsistent). His weaknesses that will prevent him from being a top 15 pick are correctable ones. some people leave early because their deficits are what they are. Martin's however, can be fixed with hard work and time. at least IMO
Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
Member since Sep 2003
57656 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:05 am to
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His weaknesses that will prevent him from being a top 15 pick are correctable ones. some people leave early because their deficits are what they are. Martin's however, can be fixed with hard work and time. at least IMO


I think this statement alone supports him to leave. Like you said, his weaknesses are very correctable. So do you go to the NBA where you get to play against the elite and have the elite coaching you or stay in college where it will be more difficult to refine your skills? #hegone

Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30022 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:07 am to
mickey is gone
Posted by Pnels08
Member since Jul 2014
9179 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:12 am to
I'm not really a big NBA guy so I can't say how well he looks for the NBA. But @ 6'10 martin has some of the best all around offensive games I've seen in the NCAA. He could easily be one of the best players in the country next year if not by the end of the year imo.
Posted by ItsThatDude12
Giving out Mercy Knees
Member since Apr 2009
9927 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 11:13 am to
Neither are being drafted in the first round as of now so they should.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30365 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 12:01 pm to
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Out of curiosity, why did you use 2 centers as a comparison?


I just picked 2 big men that were supremely athletic, but considered soft.
Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 12:07 pm to
I am going to operate under the assumption that neither will be at LSU next season. If one or both returns, I'll be thrilled, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

It's fun to play the what-if rosterbation game, the team would truly be stacked with either of them, let alone both, but ultimately it's highly unrealistic to expect either to stay in school.

Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70943 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 12:08 pm to
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But @ 6'10 martin has some of the best all around offensive games I've seen in the NCAA.


Woah, that's some serious hyperbole.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10135 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 12:28 pm to
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quote:
But @ 6'10 martin has some of the best all around offensive games I've seen in the NCAA.


Say what now?
Posted by Pnels08
Member since Jul 2014
9179 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 12:36 pm to
Not saying he is now. But he has good skill on each level on the offensive side. He can post someone up, take them to the goal and shoot with them in his face pretty well.
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