- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Loss of public land is what will destroy hunting
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:35 pm
Here's a quick story that just makes me sad and nervous and makes me wish I could stop the progress. By Phil Bourjaily
quote:
I do believe the biggest threat to hunting isn’t anti-hunters or anti-gunners. It’s lack of access and habitat. Take away places to hunt and you won’t have hunters.
One of the last hunts I made in 2014 is also the last hunt I’ll make on one of my favorite places. Yesterday I killed one final pheasant on my friend Steve’s farm. I knew the place was for sale, and after the hunt he told me it had sold to a real estate developer. As one of several siblings and the only one who lived on the farm, he was in the minority when they made the decision to sell.
I was lucky to have the farm to hunt on as long as I did. It was a five-minute drive from my house, bordered by town on two sides. There were always pheasants there, and a covey of quail I rarely shot, and it’s the place where I got hooked on goose hunting, too. It was a high spot, and the first farm outside of town, and on the right day you could see thousands of geese overhead. When you looked west or south, you could forget you were right next to a city of 100,000 people.
We only shot a couple of birds yesterday, but my dog pointed pheasants, quail and turkeys. We saw lots of deer and one coyote, too. The bulldozers are going to do a much more thorough job of killing the wildlife than the coyote ever could. I let the quail go out of habit when they came up in front of Jed’s nose, but I probably should have shot. They’ll likely all be dead soon enough.
I’ve lost hunting spots that have had all the habitat farmed out of them before, but this is the first I’ve lost to development. It’s going to hurt to see the houses go up, and see street signs that read “Pheasant Run” or “Covey Ridge” when the pheasants and quail are long gone.
Hunters are like any other wildlife: without our natural habitat, our populations fall. I was thinking about this the other day looking through a BassPro catalog and remembering how there used to be several pages of upland gear in outdoor catalogs. Now you see a page or two. The reason is simple. In many parts of the country there aren’t birds anymore, therefore there aren’t bird hunters hunting or buying gear. We haven’t lost those hunters because anti-hunters made it illegal for them to hunt birds, or because anti-gunners took away their shotguns. We lost them because they don’t have any birds to hunt.
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:52 pm to eyepooted
Very true in my experience.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:59 pm to eyepooted
Yep. Places we could shoot rabbits at night, 30 years ago, are littered with houses.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:59 pm to eyepooted
Which is why hunters should also be staunch conservationists. We should all be "tree huggers" to an extent.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:03 pm to eyepooted
quote:This
Loss of public land is what will destroy hunting
Louisiana has lost two WMAs (Georgia Pacific aka Plum Creek and Ben's Creek) since Y2K and I've also heard rumors of another lease not being renewed.
I still got the redarse
ETA Y2K
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:06 pm to eyepooted
Have seen this a ton first hand unfortunately, my home parish will pretty much be completely Metairie in the next 10 years.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:10 pm to eyepooted
It's not the loss of public land. It's just urbanization.
Louisiana has a shitload of public acerage
Louisiana has a shitload of public acerage
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:14 pm to eyepooted
I don't necessarily agree with this. First, here in the south, the land that is best for hunting is basically the lowest of land and is not good for much else...
I think the same thing that is killing live sporting events will ultimately reduce the popularity of hunting and that is that our society is just getting too soft to want to be outdoors for entertainment...young people would rather stay home and watch tv/play video games/play on a computer than to do anything outside...
I think the same thing that is killing live sporting events will ultimately reduce the popularity of hunting and that is that our society is just getting too soft to want to be outdoors for entertainment...young people would rather stay home and watch tv/play video games/play on a computer than to do anything outside...
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:29 pm to Spankum
quote:
young people would rather stay home and watch tv/play video games/play on a computer than to do anything outside...
And this, in turn is what will kill hunting. It is of the up most importance to get young people involved in the outdoors so they understand how important public land is.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:48 pm to Spankum
I would have to disagree with you there, especially in areas that are blooming. Prime agriculture amd forest as well as anything else that can be bought is bulldozed and has houses put up as soon as possible. Lafayette and the North Shore are prime examples.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:50 pm to eyepooted
quote:it means more animals to harvest for those of us that still hunt and fish
And this, in turn is what will kill hunting.
i know it doesn't completely work that way
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:55 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:We have something like over 2 million public acres that a large portion of hunters don't set foot on.
It's not the loss of public land. It's just urbanization. Louisiana has a shitload of public acerage
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:00 pm to tigerfoot
I haven't looked at the numbers but I know in my area the public land acreage grows almost every year. The state is never going to sell any of that back.
I don't think pow pow had any public land to hunt. He just knew people with undeveloped agricultural property who didn't mind if he hunted on it.
Think about how many friends you have who own large chunks of land (500+ acres). I bet they've invited you to come hunting.
I don't think pow pow had any public land to hunt. He just knew people with undeveloped agricultural property who didn't mind if he hunted on it.
Think about how many friends you have who own large chunks of land (500+ acres). I bet they've invited you to come hunting.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 6:22 am to Spankum
quote:
young people would rather stay home and watch tv/play video games/play on a computer than to do anything outside...
I dont completely agree with this statement. I have a 7 year old son that is not even sure how to turn a video gaming system on. He would rather be outside shooting basketball, throwing the baseball, or shooting at stuff. He stays after me to get him in the woods.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:18 am to Dcook2
Gun ownership is at an all time high in this country no?
hunting is a multi billion dollar industry and far more kids are hunting now than in the 70's and 80's. Managing size and numbers of wild game populations has never been more heavily emphasized than now. It's not going away as long as we keep it around.
hunting is a multi billion dollar industry and far more kids are hunting now than in the 70's and 80's. Managing size and numbers of wild game populations has never been more heavily emphasized than now. It's not going away as long as we keep it around.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 7:35 am to eyepooted
the west is basically all public land
this might happen in the eastern US, but not in the western US
and nobody seems to hunt Kisatchie, which has deer all over it these days
and go on any non gun hunt on a WMA, and you will only see a handful of trucks
this might happen in the eastern US, but not in the western US
and nobody seems to hunt Kisatchie, which has deer all over it these days
and go on any non gun hunt on a WMA, and you will only see a handful of trucks
Posted on 12/31/14 at 8:05 am to Spankum
quote:
I think the same thing that is killing live sporting events will ultimately reduce the popularity of hunting and that is that our society is just getting too soft to want to be outdoors for entertainment...young people would rather stay home and watch tv/play video games/play on a computer than to do anything outsid
I don't agree with this at all. If anything this suburban redneck thing has brought tons of people back to the woods. I've been casually watching the land market in MS and demand seems to be sky high.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 8:17 am to TheDrunkenTigah
quote:
If anything this suburban redneck thing has brought tons of people back to the woods. I've been casually watching the land market in MS and demand seems to be sky high.
also hipsters and celebrities are taking up hunting
I knew it would happen eventually and it has started with the "only eat what you kill" movement
it was the next logical step in the "organic" and foraging movement
Posted on 12/31/14 at 9:04 am to GreatLakesTiger24
I think some are missing the point of the article.
No land = No animals
The bobwhite quail is a perfect example.
quote:
it means more animals to harvest for those of us that still hunt and fish
quote:
We haven’t lost those hunters because anti-hunters made it illegal for them to hunt birds, or because anti-gunners took away their shotguns. We lost them because they don’t have any birds to hunt.
No land = No animals
The bobwhite quail is a perfect example.
Posted on 12/31/14 at 10:48 am to 007mag
quote:
Louisiana has lost two WMAs (Georgia Pacific aka Plum Creek and Ben's Creek) since Y2K and I've also heard rumors of another lease not being renewed.
Add Wisner to your list.
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News