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re: Number of estimated abortions in the US and worldwide

Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:25 pm to
Posted by Reames239
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:25 pm to
You pro-choice folks are insane. Taking the life of a growing, thriving baby is a lot different than an already developed person scratching their own nose because it itches.



Edit: Why are we talking about that crazy statement ?

Killing a fetus vs scratching your nose. Can't argue with insanity.
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 11:27 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:38 pm to
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This is where we disagree. I don't believe in free will...

Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:44 pm to
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You pro-choice folks are insane. Taking the life of a growing, thriving baby is a lot different than an already developed person scratching their own nose because it itches.



Alright, have it your way. I'm insane because we disagree.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:45 pm to
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moneyg


Prove me wrong.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:47 pm to
Either they're lying or you are. Adopting black children cost half of what it cost to adopt white kids. The free market. Go figure.

Plus foster care would love your friends to get involved. And then of course there is Africa where many babies need a home.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:49 pm to
You want him to prove free will exists? Well he has the free will to respond to you. There's your proof right there.
Posted by Reames239
Hammond
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:53 pm to
Fetus growing exponentially is less significant than a fly


Understood



Amazing that liberals want to pull the heart strings when it comes to some uneducated thug not making enough flipping hamburgers, but abortion is all fine and dandy.
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 11:55 pm
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:54 pm to
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You want him to prove free will exists? Well he has the free will to respond to you. There's your proof right there.



Knowing what we know about the brain, it's more laughable to presume free will exists.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:54 pm to
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Fetus growing exponentially is less significant than a fly



Is that what I said?
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:56 pm to
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Knowing what we know about the brain, it's more laughable to presume free will exists.
if you don't believe free will exists, I don't believe your brains knows much.... Including what the definition of "free will" is.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:58 pm to
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if you don't believe free will exists, I don't believe your brains knows much.... Including what the definition of "free will" is.



1. I've studied the brain for quite a while
2. There is no set definition of free will

Why don't we start from your definition of free will?
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 12:02 am to
1. I don't believe you.
2. Yes there is.

free will
noun
1.
free and independent choice; voluntary decision:
You took on the responsibility of your own free will.
2.
Philosophy. the doctrine that the conduct of human beings expresses personal choice and is not simply determined by physical or divine forces.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 12:10 am to
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1. I don't believe you.
2. Yes there is.


1. I don't care
2. The definition you provided is a definition of free will


quote:

free and independent choice; voluntary decision:



Let's start there. That definition states "free" and "independent" choice. What do you really have the freedom to choose that is independent of your biology (neurophysiology)?
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 12:17 am to
I'm impatient, so I'll continue. You didn't choose your genetics, your parents, or your environment. Correct or incorrect?
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 12:18 am to
If someone walked into the room I am in right now and said "let's debate whether the light is on", that debate would be as cerebral as a debate with you.

Thank you for proving dumb is not a Gump thing but a state thing.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 12:18 am to
No, thank you for so gracefully backing out of a debate with a personal insult.
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 2:23 am
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 12:21 am to
Availability is the issue. Not cost.

I don't think they're lying since my mother has met with agencies, helped then contact and collect resources.

They want an African-American child
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51806 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:21 am to
Having an abortion because of one's irresponsibility and carelessness is the most selfish act humankind could ever perpetrate.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:24 am to
Lol
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:27 am to
The cost is related to availability. Black babies cost half as much as white babies because of avalability. Plus there are many black kids In foster care in need of homes.
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