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re: I never want to hear Brees and 'elite' mentioned in the same sentence again

Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110670 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:07 pm to
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Really? How can half this board consider yourselves "fans".
So to be a fan, I have to be irrational and think he's as good as Rodgers/Manning/Brady this season?

He's lost a step. So has Manning and Brady, but they've done a better job masking it and still playing at an elite level. Brees is still great, top 10, more likely approaching top 5, but he's not the lock top 4/1st tier he was in for the last 5-7 years with Manning/Brady/Rodgers.

Now that being said, lots of posters go overboard and have stated he's been average this season and generally seem to like posting about his faults, I'd agree with that. But he's not elite, not this year.
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 4:09 pm
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
6325 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 4:07 pm to
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He had a nice run. I put him slightly behind Warren moon on the all time list if his career ended today

WTF? I'm a huge Warren Moon fan, but he is not even close to Brees. Moon had an excellent team around him prior to the salary cap change but he had undeniable leadership issues. Brees has proven so many times he can lead. Also, Moon hasn't even been to a Super Bowl; whereas Brees has won and been the MVP of one. Give me a break.
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 4:08 pm
Posted by MottLaneKid
Gonzales
Member since Apr 2012
4543 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:10 pm to
True. Brees was elite at one time. He is still a top 10 QB.

Interceptions at critical times have cost us games despite leading the NFL in total offensive yardage.

Colston dropping passes this year did not help. Brees did well with completion rate and overall passing yardage.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16410 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:13 pm to
He's def not at that level anymore. Very sad but true.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141658 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:14 pm to
then wear ear muffs
Posted by 337Tigah
Premium Access
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2563 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 5:19 pm to
Last time I checked, leading the NFL in completion % is a good argument for being elite....
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32453 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:00 pm to
Dude is a pick machine, how many INT's has he had this year, 20?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:05 pm to
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Dude is a pick machine, how many INT's has he had this year, 20?



17. Way too many

He also had the 3rd highest amount of pressures going into today with 225. For comparison, he had 174 in 2011 with more throws.


Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29025 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:07 pm to
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Brees has proven so many times he can lead.


Not this season.

And certainly not in comparison to those who actually are elite at this time.
Posted by Chadzilla
Houma
Member since Feb 2014
628 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:16 pm to
Brees is elite. You people are fricking pathetic.

Please tell me more about how Brees isn't a $100 million dollar QB.

Would you prefer Kaepernick? Maybe Flacco? How about Andy Dalton?

True $100 million dollar QB's right there.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29025 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

Please tell me more about how Brees isn't a $100 million dollar QB.

Would you prefer Kaepernick? Maybe Flacco? How about Andy Dalton?



$100 Million Brees led his team to the same record as the Cleveland Browns in one of the worst divisions in the history of the NFL.

Two of those three you mention ... will be in the playoffs.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141658 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:29 pm to
quote:

$100 Million Brees led his team to the same record as the Cleveland Browns
yeah he's a shitty blocker

frick that douche
Posted by Chadzilla
Houma
Member since Feb 2014
628 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

two of those three you mention ... will be in the playoffs.


Now answer my question as to which one of those 3 you would prefer over Brees.
This post was edited on 12/28/14 at 6:46 pm
Posted by King George
Member since Dec 2013
5356 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

I never want to hear REG861 and 'good poster' mentioned in the same sentence again
Posted by KajunGun
Bossier City, LA.
Member since Dec 2007
103 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:10 pm to
and who is?
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63441 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:14 pm to
I haven't made it much past the OP. But if Brees comes back next year and plays lights out, everyone of you should self ban yourselves for the season. He's had a bad year (which, nevertheless, has been better than most NFL QB's), but so what? It doesn't mean he's done. I think the probabilities are that it's an aberration.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29025 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

Now answer my question as to which one of those 3 you would prefer over Brees.



Of the three you listed ... none of them.

I would still rather have Brees.

I noticed you didn't list Rodgers or Brady or anyone actually considered elite.

No one considers Kapernick (sp?) elite.

No one considers Dalton elite.

No one considers Flacco elite ... except Flacco and probably a few Ravens fans.

Brees is still Top 10, perhaps Top 5 in the league.


But the man is not above criticism ... and he had some BAD INTs this season...and some of throws were not on the O-line. Some of them were just really bad.


Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64195 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:32 pm to
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

noticed you didn't list Rodgers or Brady or anyone actually considered elite. 



That would be BC that wasn't his point.

He was listing $100 million QBs that are worse than him. He is getting paid the going rate
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 12/28/14 at 10:16 pm to
Drew Bree's will be elite once again.
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