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How could you fix the Nets at this point?
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:35 pm
If Prokhorov fired Billy King and hired you as GM
Obviously just have to blow up the entire team. I don't think they have any picks for a minute so not sure what tanking would do.
No way you could turn it around for 2-3 years at the least.... Maybe fire sale everyone including Daron and softy Brook Lopez. Go after Durant?
Obviously just have to blow up the entire team. I don't think they have any picks for a minute so not sure what tanking would do.
No way you could turn it around for 2-3 years at the least.... Maybe fire sale everyone including Daron and softy Brook Lopez. Go after Durant?
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Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:43 pm to SuperSaint
They are that rare team that is horrible now, with no chance at being not horrible in the foreseeable future. Boston gets a few of their 1st round picks in the upcoming years from the Gerald Wallace trade and I think the one they do get to keep, Atlanta has the option to swap #1s with them (which they obviously will).
This team has no cap flexibility and absolutely no assets to package as incentive to move all those horrible contracts. They are the worst GM situation in the league. You can't blow it up because you have no draft picks to look forward to. Best-case scenario you get to be a fringe playoff team in the east for the rest of the decade and lose in the first round.
This team has no cap flexibility and absolutely no assets to package as incentive to move all those horrible contracts. They are the worst GM situation in the league. You can't blow it up because you have no draft picks to look forward to. Best-case scenario you get to be a fringe playoff team in the east for the rest of the decade and lose in the first round.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:45 pm to SuperSaint
Who knows. The best way to rebuild is what Ainge is doing in Boston now. The Nets can't do that however because a huge part of that Celtic plan is gathering 1st round picks. Hoping for splash free agent signings is an awful way to run an NBA franchise. A GM needs to gather young, energetic talent that can be bartered off to other teams piece by piece. Eventually gather enough picks and solid enough talent to pull off a huge trade. It will take some time before NYC basketball is back to being relevant. Sucks. The city deserves good roundball.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:49 pm to SuperSaint
Unfortunately the only way they can do it is to just let everyone expire.
I would do everything I could to move guys for expirings.
It's going to take 5 years for them at least.
I would do everything I could to move guys for expirings.
It's going to take 5 years for them at least.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:50 pm to Fun Bunch
They pretty much assured their demise and the Celtics reboot when they made that trade for Pierce/KG
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:51 pm to Patton
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Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:52 pm to Fun Bunch
You think maybe a contender would think about taking on Lopez or Daren's contracts for some young fringe players or expiring contracts
It's crazy how fricked up their cap and front office is... I don't know if i've ever seen something so FUBAR'd ... Net's fans must be pissed
At least Hornets/Pels fan's we always had something to look forward to it seems... How do you pull for a team you know is shooting for an 8 spot in the east and will be there for the very least the next half decade. terrible
It's crazy how fricked up their cap and front office is... I don't know if i've ever seen something so FUBAR'd ... Net's fans must be pissed
At least Hornets/Pels fan's we always had something to look forward to it seems... How do you pull for a team you know is shooting for an 8 spot in the east and will be there for the very least the next half decade. terrible
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:55 pm to SuperSaint
Warriors could ship someone and picks for Lopez if Bogut never gets healthy, but he's just not stout enough defensively I'm afraid. I say this as a Stanford honk.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:56 pm to SuperSaint
The whole Kidd fiasco fricked them up too. Maybe it wouldn't have been a terrible idea to hand him the keys to the franchise. Couldn't be any worse.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:56 pm to WaltTeevens
BLopez is the softest "Big" man in the league
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:56 pm to SuperSaint
Your best hope is screwing over the Kings with that rumored Deron for Collison and Thompson deal.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 12:19 am to TheWalrus
Trade expiring assets for young players with maximum team control-- you aren't going to get premium value, and you are going to suck for a while, but at least try to get multiple competent basketball players for the near term; then, when those guys are on the back end of team control in another 2 years after this (and you are getting your own picks again), *then* you hold your fire sale, with those guys, to tank it out.
If I was hired to be GM of the 2015 Nets, I would vow to Prokoviev tha we would be the worst team in the league in 2017 and 2018. Then we can try to set ourselves up for the 2020s. Things are absolutely that bad.
If I was hired to be GM of the 2015 Nets, I would vow to Prokoviev tha we would be the worst team in the league in 2017 and 2018. Then we can try to set ourselves up for the 2020s. Things are absolutely that bad.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 12:25 am to SuperSaint
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BLopez is the softest "Big" man in the league
It is seriously shocking to me how a 7-footer could consistently average under 7 rebounds a game. I laugh when people put Brook Lopez up there with some of the best big men in the league.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 1:09 am to BoardReader
quote:It's insane when you actually think about it.... I mean I don't know a club that has been this fricked up beyond repair ever. Prokov came in throwing money around like a maniac.
If I was hired to be GM of the 2015 Nets, I would vow to Prokoviev tha we would be the worst team in the league in 2017 and 2018. Then we can try to set ourselves up for the 2020s. Things are absolutely that bad.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 6:09 am to SuperSaint
but Jay-Z and Queen Bey are gonna be chilling courtside so it's all good...
Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:30 am to chalmetteowl
How much did Prok spend on the Nets?
Posted on 12/28/14 at 11:51 am to SuperSaint
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How much did Prok spend on the Nets?
Kind of a difficult question; there was a very small base line pay for the franchise, but he also footed 45% of the Barclay Center, plus redevelopment financing for the immediate area around it, as part of his initial 80% purchase; somewhere in the neighborhood of $200M plus those guarantees.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 1:28 pm to SuperSaint
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I don't know if i've ever seen something so FUBAR'd
those isaiah-led knicks teams had a similar/higher payroll 10-ish years ago. think about that
Posted on 12/28/14 at 2:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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In under 12 months, they managed to create the brand for New York’s hottest borough, and after a trip to the playoffs, they imported two future NBA Hall of Famers with mega contracts – Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce – to add to the likes of Brook Lopez, Deron Williams, and Joe Johnson. The result of the lavish summer spending will be an estimated $80 million luxury tax fine, due next July(2014). That penalty is more than the total payrolls of 27 other NBA teams.
The final about ended up being $90.57 million, and for the 2014-15 season the Nets have luxury tax fines of $35,954,301.
Total luxury tax fines of $126.52 million in just 2 years.
If was the GM, I'd bite the bullet for one more year, and in 2015-2016 DWilliams ($22 mil) and Jarrett Jack ($6 mil) are the only two player making more than 4 million on your books.
Posted on 12/28/14 at 3:11 pm to TigerintheNO
They really did a sneaky good job this past summer adding cheap, young talent in Bogdanovic, Karasev, M. Brown and C. Jefferson. They already had Teletovic and Plumlee, so they do have something to build around, especially if a couple of those guys start to exceed expectations.
Like a couple of guys have already said, they should just stay put with what they have and let the expiring contracts run out. Unless you can get anything for D. Williams. They will be a major player in the summer of 2016 and by that time a lot of their young talent will be solid role players.
Like a couple of guys have already said, they should just stay put with what they have and let the expiring contracts run out. Unless you can get anything for D. Williams. They will be a major player in the summer of 2016 and by that time a lot of their young talent will be solid role players.
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