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Is Bill Belichick a Jedi Mind Warrior?
Posted on 12/26/14 at 10:34 am
Posted on 12/26/14 at 10:34 am
Revis, who has been well known as a "me first" type player is saying things like this.
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I really hope we sign him long term.
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"We got team goals that we want to accomplish, and the Pro Bowl is definitely not one of them," Revis said. "I think a bunch of guys got in -- Tom [Brady], Rob [Gronkowski], [Matthew] Slate [Slater], Steve [Gostkowski].
"We all appreciate getting honored, but at the same time, collectively as a whole group, as a team, we can just throw that under the bus, because we're focused more on the team."
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"You know, it's an honor to be on a list of great, talented guys, some of the greatest players in the game," Revis said. "It is. It shows you -- especially coming from the ACL [injury] -- but it just shows the important work you put in, and I just have to thank my teammates for making my job a little bit easier.
"It all works together, the pass rush, the schemes that we do that the coaches draw up. I thank the coaches, as well, and my teammates for making my job easier."
I really hope we sign him long term.
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 10:37 am to Jcorye1
the pats are just an example of how stability and a successful culture matter in the NFL. it's why harbaugh is in trouble with all of his success (players won't buy in) and teams that keeps firing coaches keep being shitty (no stability).
their style of getting formerly "me-first" guys who have done all their individual shite early in the career on the cheap is great, but they can only pull it off by having that locker room and that culture in place.
their style of getting formerly "me-first" guys who have done all their individual shite early in the career on the cheap is great, but they can only pull it off by having that locker room and that culture in place.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 10:38 am to Jcorye1
Ill tell you who isnt...
Sabidojo....who even though a joke was partially explained to him doesnt get that bad buffalo game thread titles are a joke on people who use bad sports puns seriously. ...thinks that im making serious jokes. It makes me think hes super serious sports guy who makes bad sports puns seriously.
Sabidojo....who even though a joke was partially explained to him doesnt get that bad buffalo game thread titles are a joke on people who use bad sports puns seriously. ...thinks that im making serious jokes. It makes me think hes super serious sports guy who makes bad sports puns seriously.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 10:39 am to fightingtiger2335
One of my good friends is a huge bills fan and for the last few years, we've made friendly wagers on saints vs bills. He finally won.
SCREW YOU GUYS.
SCREW YOU GUYS.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 10:40 am to Brageous
I called the oakland loss all week last week. Its just so bills.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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their style of getting formerly "me-first" guys who have done all their individual shite early in the career on the cheap is great, but they can only pull it off by having that locker room and that culture in place.
I agree with that. I think that attitude was passed down from Teddy and Vrable to Brady, Wilfork, and Mayo. Robert Kraft has a lot to do with it too, I recently watched a video where Kraft was being interviewed by Bruschi and out of no where he just started talking about how Teddy meant so much to the Patriot nation, and Bruschi started tearing up.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 10:47 am to Jcorye1
and they will cut the frick out of you if you don't buy in, like big john sullivan
aquib talib is a bigger reclamation project than revis island, imho. that dude was an a-hole before the pats
aquib talib is a bigger reclamation project than revis island, imho. that dude was an a-hole before the pats
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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aquib talib is a bigger reclamation project than revis island, imho. that dude was an a-hole before the pats
He was still an a-hole with the pats
but it brought an attitude to the Pats defense that they hadn't had in a very long time so it was mutually beneficial. I think Bill let Aqib be himself out in the open moreso than most, in the same vein in him looking the other way about Gronks demeanor 
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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and they will cut the frick out of you if you don't buy in, like big john sullivan
From a business perspective, they'll cut you even faster. Everyone remembers Lawyer Milloy trying to renegotiate his contract and they cut him. This was the defensive co-captain from their Superbowl run.
Kraft over the years has only paid large contracts to three players.
1) Brady - franchise QB, no explanation needed
2) Wilfork - A 350-400lb NT with cat-like quickness that takes up 2-3 guys every play. The most important single position for the 3-4 defense
4) Gronkowski - when healthy, the hardest defensive match-up in the NFL not named Calvin Johnson
As long as you have #1/#2, you have a chance to have an effective offense and defense.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:26 am to BennyAndTheInkJets
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Kraft over the years has only paid large contracts to three players.
Logan Mankins, Adalius Thomas, Revis as well off the top of my head
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A 350-400lb NT with cat-like quickness that takes up 2-3 guys every play. The most important single position for the 3-4 defense
Pats don't really play a true 3-4 anymore. They've been base 4-3 for a couple years now although they still have the flexibility to go 3-4 a lot during a game
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 11:29 am
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:30 am to wildtigercat93
to be fair, i'm pretty sure they still line wilfork up like a NT to allow more gaps for the other DL
the best D in NFL history had 2 wilforks at DT
the best D in NFL history had 2 wilforks at DT
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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to be fair, i'm pretty sure they still line wilfork up like a NT to allow more gaps for the other DL
He lines up shaded to the center more time than a true nose. Before his achillies injury they were even splitting him out at Defensive end for their 3-4 packages
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:42 am to wildtigercat93
Revis' contract was still 1-year with another year option, and I wouldn't consider Thomas' contract "large" when comparing to the others.
Good call on Mankins, his contract is only a a few million under Gronk's.
Although it's not a true 3-4 it still relies heavily on the NT eating up the inside of the LOS. You can make arguments either way that it resembles a 3-4/4-3 more than the other, but the importance of the NT is still static.
Good call on Mankins, his contract is only a a few million under Gronk's.
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Pats don't really play a true 3-4 anymore. They've been base 4-3 for a couple years now although they still have the flexibility to go 3-4 a lot during a game
Although it's not a true 3-4 it still relies heavily on the NT eating up the inside of the LOS. You can make arguments either way that it resembles a 3-4/4-3 more than the other, but the importance of the NT is still static.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:00 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
But they don't use a NT most of the time, is what I'm saying
He's been playing a traditional defensive tackle position for a couple years now
It's semantics, but I have nothing better to do but to argue those
He's been playing a traditional defensive tackle position for a couple years now
It's semantics, but I have nothing better to do but to argue those
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:05 pm to wildtigercat93
They switch back and forth between the 3-4 and 4-3. They even play some 50 defense occasionally.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:10 pm to supatigah
I know this. I've said this
The base is 4-3 though. And they play nickel more often than not (but that's just a byproduct of today's passing league)
I just think people have a poor picture of what Wilfork actually does and how the Pats defense plays
The base is 4-3 though. And they play nickel more often than not (but that's just a byproduct of today's passing league)
I just think people have a poor picture of what Wilfork actually does and how the Pats defense plays
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:11 pm to wildtigercat93
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But they don't use a NT most of the time, is what I'm saying
I know what you're saying, a shaded nose isn't a true NT, nor is it a 3 technique either (although he's so damn big you could say he's lined up as a shaded nose and 3 tech at the same time).
Technically, I know what you're saying but from a strategic perspective his role is still the same. Eat up a bunch of guys with your large body, quick feat, and nasty temperament. Not exactly the same role asked of a 4-3 DT.
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:13 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
I guess we can agree on that then
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:18 pm to wildtigercat93
frick that I want to argue on the internet
Posted on 12/26/14 at 12:20 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
Okay, Gronk is the best TE in the NFL no question about it
ETA damn no takers anymore? Last year that would've caused a riot. How much difference a yearakes
ETA damn no takers anymore? Last year that would've caused a riot. How much difference a yearakes
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 12:21 pm
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