re: Are there really more POS cops than POS in other professions?

We are trying to have a civil and honest discussion. I really don't see any reason to use that type of language or make personal attacks.


The everyday cop doesn't use all that stuff that you described and you don't see police brutality every day. Police do defend themselves every day against criminals though. You do it more because of social media. Back in the day it happened a lot more, but no one saw it because cameras were not readily available.

Real police officers have always carried side arms since the start of policing.

The armored trucks and the para military stuff only come out under riot or very bad weather conditions. The everyday cop is still dresses just like a most cops have for years with better equipment.

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But lets say 10% of cops are pieces of shite. Id say at least 10% of doctors or lawyers are pieces of shite. Why pick on cops more?

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If a doctor is a POS, I stop seeing him or never start. If a lawyer is a POS, same. How does that work with police?

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Cops need to do a better job of policing their own;

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No! Citizens like yourself need to do a better job and give yourself to law enforcement. Just imagine the example a clear thinking individual like yourself could set for others in the police dept.

If there were fewer POS in society, we wouldn't need as many "POS" Cops.

Ain't nothing wrong with cops. It's the people that are the problem. I hear comments about they can take your freedom and your life and all this bullshite. That's the number 1 rallying cry for everything, "Oh! Our freedom is being taken away." Most of you don't even know what freedom is. You are no more free than people in England, Germany, Italy etc. Their cops are protected and rarely face the dangerous U.S. cops do. And their people are not faced with police brutality or any kind of abuse. Now why is that?

Prison mentality types seek to have laws changed so they can provoke cops without lawful repercussion.

No, there are protests because of social media and 24 hour news.

There is plenty wrong with police departments and the criminal justice system in general.

But it is not getting worse.

cops are given a huge amount of power and responsibility that normal citizens don't get.

surprised this is even a question.

its not a fact of how many pos cops there are, but the impact that pos cops can have on the populace as well as individual rights.


they need to be under a microscope.

that being said, we shouldn't be looking for excuses to be pissed off at them, either, which seems to be the case right now for some people.

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We are trying to have a civil and honest discussion. I really don't see any reason to use that type of language or make personal attacks. The everyday cop doesn't use all that stuff that you described and you don't see police brutality every day. Police do defend themselves every day against criminals though. You do it more because of social media. Back in the day it happened a lot more, but no one saw it because cameras were not readily available. Real police officers have always carried side arms since the start of policing. The armored trucks and the para military stuff only come out under riot or very bad weather conditions. The everyday cop is still dresses just like a most cops have for years with better equipment.

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I think you make extremely valid point about quality of applicant. My point, and his, though woefully inarticulate, is that policies and procedures are much worse.

The militarization of the police is much worse. The lack of community policing is worse. The lack of day to day interaction is worse.

I don't know where you work, but from my perspective much of this is city oriented and thus gets the larger share if the spotlight and media attention. I can't speak about smaller towns, but rest assured that you you are completely wrong about armored vehicles and military gear. And more importantly when They are used.

There is absolutely no reason that flash grenades and that type of force/action were needed to apprehend a suspected drug dealer like we saw in Georgia. There are other methods for apprehending subspecies other than the dead of night military operation.

The courts have made some favorable decisions and the police have taken advantage. Let's face it, you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, but when dealing with an officer you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent. And even when you are innocent they will use any justification to go fishing.

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No, there are protests because of social media and 24 hour news. There is plenty wrong with police departments and the criminal justice system in general. But it is not getting worse.

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I disagree. It is getting worse. Not in the ways the protesters generally think it's getting worse. But it is, IMO, getting worse. (In fairness, it could be just as bad as it's always been but we are more aware of it because of social media and video).

An inability to hear valid criticisms of the police isn't going to help move us forward.