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re: What's your take on prescription drug laws?

Posted on 12/24/14 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 1:04 pm to
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America is the only nation where "DTC" (Direct-to-Consumer) advertising is allowed when it comes to drugs.



America and New Zealand.

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This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 1:05 pm
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 1:04 pm to
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I'm out of state right now and can't get my doc's office to refill it over state lines.

Most pharmacies will do a courtesy refill of a couple days supply for travelers just by calling the originating pharmacy. If you're going to be away for a lengthy period, it's up to you to make sure you have an adequate supply until you return home.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 1:06 pm
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
7995 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 1:50 pm to
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I am worried about Antibiotics though. They can hurt everyone by not being taken appropriately.


I agree with you on this. No way would I ever want antibiotics to be OTC.

I don't care much one way or the other for the other stuff.
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 2:02 pm to
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There's no way I'd take opiates unless I absolutely had to.


Some have to and I don't fault them for that, but avoid them if at all possible.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98138 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 2:51 pm to
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I'm totally ok with drug advertisement. I think patients should be informed and make informed choices.


I'm all for informed choices, but that's not what you get from drug ads. You get two people sitting in matching bathtubs, while a narrator rattles off a disclaimer at the speed of sound.

Agree with the other poster about the conundrum of antibiotics.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69251 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 2:54 pm to
I think prescription laws are very bad for poor people who are uninsured. It forces them to take a 200 dollar visit to a doctor office just to get the slip to get the medicine.

A minimum wage worker would have to work 27 hours just to earn enough money to go to one doctor office for a visit.

27 hours.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259940 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 2:55 pm to
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I'm all for informed choices, but that's not what you get from drug ads.


You don't get it from many ads. It's up to the consumer to educate themselves IMO. I'm 100% for allowing people to use whatever drugs they want to use.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98138 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:15 pm to
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You don't get it from many ads. It's up to the consumer to educate themselves IMO. I'm 100% for allowing people to use whatever drugs they want to use.


Does that include antibiotics? Chemo drugs? I'm not being argumentative. I'm trying to clarify my own position on this. Most drugs aren't psychoactive, so I guess there wouldn't be a huge demand, but there are always nimrods who think they know better than the Dr, and there are always charlatans who would prescribe drugs carelessly. And, as others in the thread have stated, misuse of antibiotics can have consequences for the population as a whole. In general, I agree that people should be able to put whatever substance they want into their body. OTOH, the argument starts to break down when it comes to certain classes of drugs.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259940 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:20 pm to
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Does that include antibiotics? Chemo drugs?


Yes.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98138 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:24 pm to
What do you do about the wave of drug resistant bacteria that's sure to follow?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259940 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:27 pm to
I really don't think people would abuse antibiotics the way you seem to think they would. I have no urge to take them unless I have to, I imagine most of the population feels the same way. There's no tangible benefit to them outside of what they are made for.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98138 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:33 pm to
It's a problem in India LINK

Again, not to be argumentative, just trying to work out a reasonable position on this.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259940 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:36 pm to
Your link shows the US consuming twice as much per capita as India, and it's highly regulated here.

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the US still outperforms all other countries, with Americans consuming twice as many antibiotics as Indians.


I wouldn't think it's as much a problem in India as they believe.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:43 pm to
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I really don't think people would abuse antibiotics the way you seem to think they would. I have no urge to take them unless I have to, I imagine most of the population feels the same way. There's no tangible benefit to them outside of what they are made for.
The issue is not people taking antibiotics "recreationally." The issues are (a) people taking them when they think they need them but are mistaken (b) people taking them properly but stopping as soon as their symptoms abate (c) people feeding vast quantities of them as prophylactics to livestock.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 3:44 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:46 pm to
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She went 4 days with nothing but ibuprofen because of the new rules that won't allow for an rx to be called in.


When things like this happen, don't accept answers like "that's just the way it is." If you make the medical staff meet a need like uncontrolled pain (which should be met within 4 hours) and emphasize that whatever they're proposing isn't good enough, they'll find a way to get it done.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259940 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:46 pm to
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The issue is not people taking antibiotics "recreationally."


Understood, if you read my post you'd see that. There are no tangible reasons for them to take antibiotics unless it's necessary.

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The issues are (a) people taking them when they think they need them but are mistaken


I don't believe this will be much of an issue as some of you seem to believe.

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(b) people taking them properly but stopping as soon as their symptoms abate (c)


People do this now.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 3:48 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:49 pm to
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much of an issue


It's already an issue. Antibiotic resistance develops when people take antibiotics and don't need them.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259940 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:51 pm to
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It's already an issue. Antibiotic resistance develops when people take antibiotics and don't need them.



What makes you believe that people will abuse antibiotics if they are less regulated? This is the issue.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:54 pm to
Because they already overuse them even when a prescription is required.

Additionally, you have huge complications which can arise from antibiotics like C diff which a doctor should be aware of.

If people want to waive their right to sue drug manufacturers and take what they want, I wouldn't have a problem with that. That would obviously never be allowed.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259940 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:56 pm to
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Because they already overuse them even when a prescription is required.



Where are they getting them???

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Additionally, you have huge complications which can arise from antibiotics like C diff which a doctor should be aware of.


My guess is the overwhelming majority of people would avoid antibiotics without consulting a doctor even if they were readily available. I see no reason why they would be abused.



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