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Captain Phillips ***spoilers***

Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:11 pm
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53817 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:11 pm
After the Saints loss yesterday I finally sat down to watch Captain Phillips and other than the backdrop of the story (Somolian Pirates commandeering a US Ship) I didn't know much about it.

I thought it started real well, got kinda slow in the middle and probably could have cut some time there but the ending was very well done (by Hanks in particular).

From a historical perspective I can only imagine some of the events are probably not true to form so that might turn some people off, but overall, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

On a side note- it amazes me that the US would spend that much money, time, equipment and manpower all to save one American Citizen.

At least two ships, an aircraft carrier, seal team, drones, etc all after the main cargo ship was free and clear.

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

On a side note- it amazes me that the US would spend that much money, time, equipment and manpower all to save one American Citizen.

At least two ships, an aircraft carrier, seal team, drones, etc all after the main cargo ship was free and clear.



"Don't frick with 'Murricans" is the message that is trying to deliver.


Sadly we still get beheaded in the middle east.
Posted by LaBornNRaised
Loomis blows
Member since Feb 2011
11004 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:15 pm to
It wasn't about one citizen. They were saving American interest in that part of the world. A whole lot of money to be made in that part of the world and they couldn't let anyone ruin it.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53817 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:17 pm to
What do you mean?

The cargo ship was no longer under pirate control. The only thing the pirates had was the Captain, the $30k they gave the pirates, the lifeboat and it's contents (which included one Yeti I saw multiple times).

Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12268 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

What do you mean?

The cargo ship was no longer under pirate control. The only thing the pirates had was the Captain, the $30k they gave the pirates, the lifeboat and it's contents (which included one Yeti I saw multiple times).



Right but if you let one American get captured by Somali pirates, you open a can of worms. Do you pay for him? No. So he dies. So now americans refuse to work those waters and more money is lost over time than would have been if you simply paid the ransom. But had you paid the ransom, you would have encouraged other pirates to attack American vessels and crews, perpetuating the problem. The only response was to go in and get the guy out before any real harm came to him. Now, Somali pirates think twice before attacking American vessels.

On the other hand, he probably shouldn't have been rescued in real life since it was his boneheaded decision to travel that close to the Somali coast in the first place in direct contradiction of his orders and job responsibilities.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11636 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

On a side note- it amazes me that the US would spend that much money, time, equipment and manpower all to save one American Citizen. At least two ships, an aircraft carrier, seal team, drones, etc all after the main cargo ship was free and clear.


We got all that shite, might as well use it.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27608 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:06 pm to
I always interpreted it as sending a message. That was a line drawn in the sand, so to speak.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53817 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:09 pm to
I mean, I know WHY they did it, i just find it amazing they would. I just would have expected we would have let the life boat go, reach shore and then in a coordinated effort with NATO we would handle it from there.

I also thought it was really cool that the Seal Team was the same Seal Team (6) that got Bin Laden a few years later.

Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12268 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

I mean, I know WHY they did it, i just find it amazing they would. I just would have expected we would have let the life boat go, reach shore and then in a coordinated effort with NATO we would handle it from there.

I also thought it was really cool that the Seal Team was the same Seal Team (6) that got Bin Laden a few years later.


O. Well, in that case, I would say they probably thought if he made it to shore and they took him into the jungle, the Seals would have a helluva time tracking him down and getting to him before he was tortured or whatever. In this case, they could surround the enemy vessel, outnumber the men with arms, and essentially engage on their own terms. At least, that would be my thinking. I would do everything I could to keep the pirates from getting the US Citizen into a place the pirates know well and are comfortable in. That would result in potentially more bloodletting and the invasion of another sovereign's soil, whether covertly or overtly, which obviously has serious risks.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 3:40 pm
Posted by illuminatic
Manipulating politicans&rappers
Member since Sep 2012
6962 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:52 pm to
I hate this movie.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29390 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

The cargo ship was no longer under pirate control. The only thing the pirates had was the Captain, the $30k they gave the pirates, the lifeboat and it's contents (which included one Yeti I saw multiple times).


In all seriousness, one of the first jobs of the US Navy was defending shipping lanes against pirates off the Barbary Coast. This is not out of the ordinary, just piracy hasn't exactly been big.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 3:59 pm
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
6646 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 6:14 pm to
I thought the actors playing the Somali pirates were outstanding as well. Hanks will get all the accolades, but these guys outperformed him in my mind.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27875 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 6:34 pm to
Barkhad Abdi was nominated for best supporting actor.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 6:44 pm to
Vastly overrated movie.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18770 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:21 pm to
Ok movie. Should have been shorter, but that is true of most these days.

The shooting done by the SEALs off the back of that ship was phenomenal. Two bobbing boats, simultaneous headshots, no room for error. American Rifleman had a good article about it. That required intense training and superb communications.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18568 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:35 pm to
Yeah, he real life captain Phillips was a jackass whose crew hated him. There was a lot of noise when this was released about making him a hero.

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Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9353 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:14 am to
quote:

one of the first jobs of the US Navy was defending shipping lanes against pirates off the Barbary Coast. This is not out of the ordinary, just piracy hasn't exactly been big.


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