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Will Baton Rouge Ever Get an Interstate Loop?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:04 pm
Even if a plan was agreed upon now, it probably wouldn't be complete until 2021 or 2022. So with apparently no money for it and not enough political backing to get approval for the foreseeable future, how long before things get so bad that something finally happens?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:05 pm to ell_13
Oh look it's this thread again.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:05 pm to ell_13
No.
That was fun. Thanks for this new and refreshing thread topic.
That was fun. Thanks for this new and refreshing thread topic.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:06 pm to ell_13
Yep, they already have one. It goes from Lafayette directly to New Orleans.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:07 pm to ell_13
quote:Bro, do you even construction in BR?
wouldn't be complete until 2021 or 2022.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:08 pm to ell_13
They need to make I-10/12 at least 4 lanes first.
Edit.
On both sides East/West.
Edit.
On both sides East/West.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:09 pm to ell_13
Baton Rouge is done. It's over.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:10 pm to shutterspeed
/thread
not even close!
not even close!
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:10 pm to CocomoLSU
quote:
No.
That was fun. Thanks for this new and refreshing thread topic
Most threads are about needing one now. Of course not possible. I was just trying to see if people thought if it would EVER happen.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:10 pm to yankeeundercover
quote:Yeah. 7 years is way too soon I guess. I was trying to be nice.
Bro, do you even construction in BR?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:11 pm to brodys_lettuce
quote:
They need to make I-10/12 at least 4 lanes fist.
Edit.
On both sides East/West.
Hell, making 10 East at the east foot of the bridge 2 lane would help. But we won't close the Washington exit because, you know, racism and stuff.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:13 pm to Rickety Cricket
quote:
Lake Charles > Baton Rouge
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:15 pm to ell_13
No, for several reasons:
1. The EPA has basically made building elevated highways or highways through swampland impossible (this eliminates the southerly route that makes sense straddling the EBR/Ascension?Iberville Border)
2. Since the route that keeps it out of most peoples' backyards is not feasible due to reason 1, NIMBY's consistently will vote down any other alternatives that are not so far out of the way that they no longer save time.
3. People in Louisiana abhor toll roads, and will never vote for one. This eliminates one of the major means of funding such an ambitious and expensive project.
4. There is more money to be made in kickbacks from studying a project than from building it. There is no type of company that is more politically connected than one that performs feasibility studies for municipal projects. A lot of that money goes right back into the pockets of politicians.
5. Going through populated areas requires a ton of cash for imminent domain. In order for politicians to turn a profit on a project that gets built, it has to go through areas that can be made valuable via a major highway running through them. However, if the area is already valuable, it makes the highway more expensive to build and less likely to improve the value of that property (may actually drive it down). The best case is to have a road through "buildable" no-where (i.e. the soil supports buildings with minimal effort, but there's nothing there now). That way, they buy up far more property for the right of way than is needed and then sell that excess property to developers at below cost (with a kickback) around the highway exits (which are not known by the general public until after the land around those exits are bought up).
6. If you fix a problem, you can't campaign to fix that problem.
The whole loop debate is nothing more than a game.
1. The EPA has basically made building elevated highways or highways through swampland impossible (this eliminates the southerly route that makes sense straddling the EBR/Ascension?Iberville Border)
2. Since the route that keeps it out of most peoples' backyards is not feasible due to reason 1, NIMBY's consistently will vote down any other alternatives that are not so far out of the way that they no longer save time.
3. People in Louisiana abhor toll roads, and will never vote for one. This eliminates one of the major means of funding such an ambitious and expensive project.
4. There is more money to be made in kickbacks from studying a project than from building it. There is no type of company that is more politically connected than one that performs feasibility studies for municipal projects. A lot of that money goes right back into the pockets of politicians.
5. Going through populated areas requires a ton of cash for imminent domain. In order for politicians to turn a profit on a project that gets built, it has to go through areas that can be made valuable via a major highway running through them. However, if the area is already valuable, it makes the highway more expensive to build and less likely to improve the value of that property (may actually drive it down). The best case is to have a road through "buildable" no-where (i.e. the soil supports buildings with minimal effort, but there's nothing there now). That way, they buy up far more property for the right of way than is needed and then sell that excess property to developers at below cost (with a kickback) around the highway exits (which are not known by the general public until after the land around those exits are bought up).
6. If you fix a problem, you can't campaign to fix that problem.
The whole loop debate is nothing more than a game.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:16 pm to stout
Yes.
It will open the day before the first mass-produced flying car goes on the market. Or the day after my great-grandson has to give up his license because he's just too old to drive.
It will open the day before the first mass-produced flying car goes on the market. Or the day after my great-grandson has to give up his license because he's just too old to drive.
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