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Free Agent Cornerbacks

Posted on 12/22/14 at 12:57 am
Posted by Zoombop
Westbank
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 12:57 am
Our track record for drafting corners is awful, that much is obvious (see: Malcolm Jenkins, Patrick Robinson, Johnny Patrick, Stanley Jean-Baptiste, Corey White). However, we have proven to be much better at bringing in free agents at the position and having them not only excel here, but also come at reasonable rates (see: Jabari Greer and Keenan Lewis).

It's clear that we are in desperate need of a quality No. 2 corner opposite Lewis. The position has been a revolving door in more ways than one. Terrence Frederick is the latest guy to start over there, and, honestly, he has been solid, but he cannot possibly be the future of the position. He needs veteran competition. So, I skimmed a list of FA cornerbacks for 2015 and picked a few I felt would fit nicely.

1. Byron Maxwell, Seattle - Maxwell has good size and toughness for the position, and could be the latest Seattle defender to be poached away. With teams shying away from Sherman on the other side, Maxwell has really done a great job of locking his side down as well. He could be had at ~$5mil/year and still have his best football ahead of him.

2. Chris Culliver, San Fran - The Niners will probably want to lock up their top corner, but as volatile as things are over there, I could see him slipping away like Tarell Brown and Donte Whitner did last off-season. Still only 26, Culliver is still getting better, particularly in the takeaway department. His deal would be similar to Maxwell's.

3. Perrish Cox, San Fran - Cox has had a tumultuous career in the NFL thus far, mainly stemming from off the field problems, but this year he finally seemed to have his head on straight. He has never been short on talent (at one time he was considered a potential 1st rounder), but because of those issues, he bounced between several teams the past few years. Stepping his game up when called to duty from injuries to guys ahead of him, Cox shined with 5 interceptions on the year and 18 passes defended. He's a size-speed guy that might be worth taking a shot on. My guess for salary would be ~$3mil/year.

As a final note, you should not put much stock into the contract estimates. The FA corner class is very weak this year and could inflate prices. Other teams may be willing to pay more of a premium to retain the services of these players as well. Just my $0.02, so take it for what you will. Share with me your thoughts!

P.S. I'm in favor of bringing PRob back at the minimum to play nickel.
Posted by Mshargois3
NOLA
Member since Jan 2014
1664 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 1:13 am to
Chris Harris from Denver also
Posted by SaintlyTiger
Deridder La
Member since Nov 2012
2228 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 1:22 am to
Harris resigned
Posted by xxKylexx
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
4039 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:19 am to
Get in touch with Maxwell's agent and see how much he's looking for. However, he's fixing to get paid so I highly doubt we can make a move. However, in the draft I would go with Oregon's IEO in round 3 or even 2 possibly just to have someone in the wings.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64108 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 5:59 am to
Support.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32880 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:22 am to
I doubt we have any money to sign any good FA CB this year. I think the best we can do is have a Jason Craft type signing.
Posted by Chadzilla
Houma
Member since Feb 2014
628 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:49 am to
Tramon Williams from Green Bay is a possibility he's from Houma so maybe he'd like to be back home again like Keenan.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 7:51 am
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
9398 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:49 am to
Maxwell is not a good fit for Ryan system. 90% zone in Seattle, almost exclusively man in NO.
Posted by Zoombop
Westbank
Member since Feb 2013
987 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:17 am to
We are actually in a better cap situation than we were last year. I'm expecting more sweeping changes to come through, especially to the offense this year. At least one of the guards will be gone, Colston may be gone, Drew could be extended and have his cap # spread out. Plus there are a few guys on defense that could hit the road.

With that said, I think we can free up enough space to bring in a good player and not break the bank. We just need to stay away from the big names this year and not spend all of our money in one place.
Posted by NamariTiger
Flower Mound, Texas
Member since Jun 2014
17746 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:17 am to
I could've sworn Peanut Tillman would be an unrestricted free Agent. New Orleans hometown discount plus the connection with Keenan Lewis might help.
Posted by Zoombop
Westbank
Member since Feb 2013
987 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:19 am to
Tillman, Ike Taylor, Tramon Williams.

All those guys have LA roots and are free agents.

They're also all over the age of 32 and either injury prone or completely on the decline. That's not what we need at all.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32880 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:26 am to
quote:

We are actually in a better cap situation than we were last year.


Are we? Don't we take a big hit on Cameron Jordan's contract next year? And what About Ingram's contract? And if we cut Grubbs, don't we end up with more dead money than savings?

Not disagreeing with you, I'm just not sure.
Posted by Zoombop
Westbank
Member since Feb 2013
987 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:30 am to
Yeah, someone did a very detailed breakdown of cap stuff about a week ago. Jordan is going into the last year of his rookie deal and Ingram is a free agent (whom I expect will move on to greener pastures). You're correct with Grubbs and Evans, but the team will just have to bite the bullet on one of them by cutting them outright or asking them to accept a paycut. There's just no way they can both stay at those rates with their performance.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28885 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:37 am to
quote:

I doubt we have any money


Hear this every year...
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:39 am to
quote:

LSUZombie
There's really no telling how you'll react to a loss.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:39 am to
Revis
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28885 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:54 am to
quote:

There's really no telling how you'll react to a loss.


I find it best to always keep the audience guessing
Posted by Zoombop
Westbank
Member since Feb 2013
987 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

Revis


I was thinking Nnamdi Asomugha
Posted by SnoopALoop
Nashville
Member since Apr 2014
4394 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 12:27 pm to
Have we not learn that an aging CB is not the route to go? We took that risk already and failed miserably and put us in the situation we're in now.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
9398 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

Hear this every year...


It's actually true this time though. We're the highest above the cap going into this offseason. $160M~ ... The cap is PROJECTED to be like 138-140 supposedly, but this is speculation. it could be lower. Even if we cut BOTH guards outright we wouldn't be below this number. That is alarming. YES, I believe they will get under the cap and sign some players. But it will be tough. We definitely won't be pulling a Byrd this offseason.
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