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re: There is absolutely no reason you don't kick the field goal with :30 left

Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:32 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:32 pm to
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No dude just give. Statically receiving an onside kick is 10%


You're ignoring the fact that you can't Hail Mary a FG. We had no time outs and only needed a FG and a TD, so you take the FG to save as much time as possible to get the TD. You acting like you're infallibly right is hilarious.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:38 pm to
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So would you rather get FG and have 30 seconds to drive 50 yards & score 'or score a TD and have 20 seconds to go 20 yards to get in FG range.


Except that's not the correct way to look at it since that's never what happens. The correct way is, would you rather kick the quick fg, have 50 seconds left needing a td, or run the clock down going for td, leaving 5 or 10 seconds to get onside kick and fg? This was terrible coaching.
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 3:39 pm
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:41 pm to
Bottom line we are at the 15 yard line with 30 seconds. You don't kick a FG there.

How can yall not grasp that?
Posted by wizziko
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:46 pm to
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Bottom line we are at the 15 yard line with 30 seconds. You don't kick a FG there.

How can yall not grasp that?

How can you not grasp this below? We were in field goal range

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Should have done it with :50. Inexcusable clock management.

Kick the FG recover the onside kick and have :45 to do whatever the hell you want
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:46 pm to
How do you not grasp the time constraint? The mismanagement if the clock was blatant. How do you not get it?
Posted by GCTiger11
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:47 pm to
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So would you rather get FG and have 30 seconds to drive 50 yards & score 'or score a TD and have 20 seconds to go 20 yards to get in FG range.


Every second you spent running a play was a second taken away from your next drive (assuming an onside recovery).

When you list all the things that can go wrong when you....

Kick a FG:
You miss it and lose the game

Run a play:
Sack
Interception
Underneath pass that keeps clock rolling

Yes, I'll take 30 or more seconds with some shots at the endzone
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 3:51 pm
Posted by GCTiger11
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:49 pm to
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God you're a fricking idiot.

This means a lot coming from the poster who dropped an N-bomb on the board and got banned from the site

Posted by northeasttiger
New York
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:50 pm to
Only error was Brees throw underneather. Have to go to end zone.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:51 pm to
You're ignoring a lot in your summation of what can happen.
Posted by wizziko
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:51 pm to
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This means a lot coming from the poster who dropped an N-bomb on the board and got banned from the site

Posted by wizziko
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Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:52 pm to
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You're ignoring a lot in your summation of what can happen.

Like what?
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45136 posts
Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:52 pm to
30-50 seconds to score a touchdown > 10-15 seconds to score a touchdown

When were in the range, we should've just kicked it.
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:54 pm to
No. We weren't in range at 50 seconds. Graham makes that at best 50%.

20 seconds to get in FG range is greater than 30-50 seconds to score a TD.

literally one 15 yard pass would put us in range.
Posted by LSUzealot
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:55 pm to
And i paid my time for that reference. No proud of it. It wasn't the full word though that's permanan worthy.
Posted by GCTiger11
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:56 pm to
If Graham can't make it from where we were with 30 seconds left (I don't know the exact range), he shouldn't be in the NFL
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:58 pm to
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No. We weren't in range at 50 seconds. Graham makes that at best 50%.
45 yards is range for an NFL kicker. You have to get the points while saving as much time as possible. You couldn't have done it any more wrong than we did. It is inexcusable.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 3:58 pm to
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30-50 seconds to score a touchdown > 10-15 seconds to score a touchdown When were in the range, we should've just kicked it.

I agree, I think I misread you somewhere. zealot is derping hard in this thread.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 4:01 pm to
should have kicked it with 50 seconds left.
Posted by MarcusQuinn
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 4:08 pm to
You need a TD, a FG and to conserve clock. Anywhere on the field is TD range. You should take the FG as soon as it's a reasonable distance in that situation. Always.
Posted by wizziko
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Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 12/21/14 at 4:14 pm to
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zealot is derping hard in this thread.

He should stick to uber threads
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