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re: Sharpton, Obama and Holder have blood on their hands
Posted on 12/20/14 at 9:56 pm to ChineseBandit58
Posted on 12/20/14 at 9:56 pm to ChineseBandit58
You hit the nail on the head, Chinesebandit58. Most of these people are pathetically dishonest.
There was NEVER any connection made, whatsoever, between the shooting of the Arizona Congresswom and the fact that Palin had used a visual aide to show Dem candidates being "in the crosshairs". IN FACT, THE MAN WHO SHOT HER WAS FOUND TO BE POLITICALLY LIBERAL, AND THE SHOOTER NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT SARAH PALIN'S VISUAL AIDE.
On the other hand, the scumbag who shot these cops SPECIFICIALLY REFERRED TO THRSE GRAND JURY CASES AND SAID HE WAS GOING TO GET "2 (POLICEMEN) FOR ONE BROTHER."
Anybody with half a brain can see that the hoopla surrounding these cases was the motive for these killings. THE MURDERER SAID AS MUCH ON HIS TWITTER ACCOUNT.
There is no comparison between these two shootings. But like Chinesebandit said, some of you are pathetically dishonest.
There was NEVER any connection made, whatsoever, between the shooting of the Arizona Congresswom and the fact that Palin had used a visual aide to show Dem candidates being "in the crosshairs". IN FACT, THE MAN WHO SHOT HER WAS FOUND TO BE POLITICALLY LIBERAL, AND THE SHOOTER NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT SARAH PALIN'S VISUAL AIDE.
On the other hand, the scumbag who shot these cops SPECIFICIALLY REFERRED TO THRSE GRAND JURY CASES AND SAID HE WAS GOING TO GET "2 (POLICEMEN) FOR ONE BROTHER."
Anybody with half a brain can see that the hoopla surrounding these cases was the motive for these killings. THE MURDERER SAID AS MUCH ON HIS TWITTER ACCOUNT.
There is no comparison between these two shootings. But like Chinesebandit said, some of you are pathetically dishonest.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 9:59 pm to KCT
If someone is born and raised in an environment of violence, and they subsequently become violent, who is to blame?
Posted on 12/20/14 at 10:03 pm to baybeefeetz
God created them so I'm going with god too.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 10:26 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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If someone is born and raised in an environment of violence, and they subsequently become violent, who is to blame?
There's different layers. But that's too much for this board.
Culpability rests at the level of the individual.
Influence comes from a variety of sources. Influence isn't culpability.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 10:29 pm to Lsut81
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Again, saying you support protestors disagreements with police tactics =\= support for killing cops. I don't remember seeing one organized protest that was rallied around killing cops. There were rogue social media people calling for it, but not like you are claiming.
There was a protest march with the "what do we want = dead cops" chant. They marched down the streets of NYC with NYC police protection. And they were protesting a Grand Jury decision. Grand Juries are the backbone of our entire criminal justice system and has been honored for over 200 years. In that decision there was PLENTY of reasons for reaching the verdict that they reached. The problem was that so many of the race hustler industry wanted a show trial where some civil rights lawyer could get come cred.
Now = I will agree that there is a legitimate issue to be discussed if someone disagrees with a grand jury decision in the Eric Garner case. I think they reached the correct decision, but many reasonable people disagree with me. I just think that protests in the streets are the wrong way to try to fix this kind of thing - unless there is an ongoing, evident, and overbearing pattern of such decisions.
I am not saying that all grand jury verdicts are absolutely correct - but they are the best system yet devised my mankind to ensure against injustice in the court system.
The Michael Brown case is completely absurd. There is NOTHING about that grand jury verdict that is in the slightest way incorrect. In fact it should not have even been submitted to a grand jury. There was no case there to prosecute. The DA succumbed to overbearing pressure from the Governor, Atty Gen of the USA, and the President of the USA by even sending it to the grand jury.
ALL the crap that ensued after the MB verdict was totally misguided. It was PURPOSEFULLY misrepresented and lies were told and retold to rile up the ignorant and the activists who are pining for something to protest against.
If not for the MB case perhaps the ignorant and the activists would not have been so eager to take up the EG case.
At any time, the POTUS could have done a great service to America by proclaiming the pre-eminence of the grand jury system, by declaring that all the hoopla being ginned up by the race-baiters was based on falsehoods and by publicly shaming those who were actively inciting riots.
There was nothing there to protest, period.
But none of the wise things happened - instead, BHO and EH poured flame on the fires by sympathizing with the race-baiters, even inviting the number one POS Al Sharpton to the WH.
Then in the EG case, mayor DeBlasio completely gutted the morale of the NYPD with his scorn towards them and he love-fest with the protesters.
You can legitimately protest police actions when you have a proper example of such. I will not support a bad cop. But I will not persecute a good cop just because someone thinks that bad cops exist and by gawd they want to riot.
I am in no way trying to absolve the POS thug who shot these policemen. I am however blaming the mayor for inciting him to do it.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 10:35 pm to ChineseBandit58
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There was a protest march with the "what do we want = dead cops" chant. They marched down the streets of NYC with NYC police protection. And they were protesting a Grand Jury decision. Grand Juries are the backbone of our entire criminal justice system and has been honored for over 200 years. In that decision there was PLENTY of reasons for reaching the verdict that they reached.
Soo they shouldn't be allowed to protest? You believe the protest should have been forcibly ended?
Posted on 12/20/14 at 10:35 pm to ChineseBandit58
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unless there is an ongoing, evident, and overbearing pattern of such decisions.
There is.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 10:42 pm to ChineseBandit58
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If not for the MB case perhaps the ignorant and the activists would not have been so eager to take up the EG case.
Nah, the Garner case looked bad. The Brown case was a fiasco and I don't think highly of anyone who jumped on the bandwagon. It's one of those litmus tests for sure.
The kid killed in Cleveland deserved the anger that went toward the Brown case but people were stupid. The Garner situation was going to be volatile no matter what happened preceding it.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 10:43 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 11:00 pm to onmymedicalgrind
one can rationalize and try to justify till the cows come home, but when anarchy breaks out in a free society, the anarchists should not be defended in the name of freedom, rather freedom should be defended and anarchy stopped
but leave it to liberals to try and convolute and contort logic in every way possible to attempt to justify in the name of their political suasions
but leave it to liberals to try and convolute and contort logic in every way possible to attempt to justify in the name of their political suasions
Posted on 12/20/14 at 11:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Garner - the guys's OWN FAMILY SAID IT WAS NOT RACIALLY MOTIVATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This post was edited on 12/20/14 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 12/20/14 at 11:03 pm to Hooligan's Ghost
It is the beginning of anarchy when respect for law enforcement diminishes just like it did in the 60's and 70's. We are seeing a recurrence of that era in some respects right now.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 11:26 pm to genuineLSUtiger
It's coming soon, this all part of the plan for Obama create as much chaos in this country as possible. He could have stepped up and supported the police and instead he immediately in three different cases took the thugs side. This kid tweeted what he was going to do, Deblasio and Sharpton never said a word when the protesters were screaming kill the cops. This tragedy is directly related to those protests and anyone denying that has got their head up their arse. The cops never get the benefit of the doubt these thugs did, all they had to do was listen to cop and they would still be here. I wonder if we will see Obama, Sharpton, Holder and Debozo come to the defense of the cops this time.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 12:03 am to Hooligan's Ghost
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one can rationalize and try to justify till the cows come home, but when anarchy breaks out in a free society, the anarchists should not be defended in the name of freedom, rather freedom should be defended and anarchy stopped but leave it to liberals to try and convolute and contort logic in every way possible to attempt to justify in the name of their political suasions
So the opposite of anarchy is freedom?
Posted on 12/21/14 at 12:13 am to the808bass
no, but anarchy infringes on freedom, don't you think?
and I said in a free society, I didn't say anarchy in a totalitarian society
and I said in a free society, I didn't say anarchy in a totalitarian society
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 12:15 am
Posted on 12/21/14 at 12:27 am to Hooligan's Ghost
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but anarchy infringes on freedom, don't you think?
It infringes on life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. But I'm not sure the cops GAF about those. Or our freedom. Real talk.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 12:28 am to trackfan
Animosity ? Are you shitting me ?
Killing two cops for the hell of it isn't animosity. It is lynch mob mentality.
What makes that animosity Track ? If you have the cops looking for a subject, will anyone tell where the thug is ? Hell no, a warped sense of honor has people that would rather live with a thug in the neighborhood than with a cop doing his duty.
Being a drug dealer or pimp is cool. LOL
No, being a pimp or drug dealer is a low life scum. and the bych needs to be off the streets.
Italians were associated with he mob, but they assimilated into the USA. The Irish assimilated, etc. etc.
Killing two cops for the hell of it isn't animosity. It is lynch mob mentality.
What makes that animosity Track ? If you have the cops looking for a subject, will anyone tell where the thug is ? Hell no, a warped sense of honor has people that would rather live with a thug in the neighborhood than with a cop doing his duty.
Being a drug dealer or pimp is cool. LOL
No, being a pimp or drug dealer is a low life scum. and the bych needs to be off the streets.
Italians were associated with he mob, but they assimilated into the USA. The Irish assimilated, etc. etc.
Posted on 12/21/14 at 12:31 am to Hooligan's Ghost
The race baiters, Sharpton De Blasio and others bear some responsibility for this having fanned the hate flames to further a political agenda.
Had someone shot some protesters claiming support for the police the same people would have been all over the media screaming bloody murder and making the usual accusations.
And to those saying whites are far ahead on the scoreboard, like it is some kind of game, that price got paid big time in blood back in the 1860's. Paid in full.
Had someone shot some protesters claiming support for the police the same people would have been all over the media screaming bloody murder and making the usual accusations.
And to those saying whites are far ahead on the scoreboard, like it is some kind of game, that price got paid big time in blood back in the 1860's. Paid in full.
This post was edited on 12/21/14 at 12:32 am
Posted on 12/21/14 at 12:32 am to antibarner
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Had someone shot some protesters claiming support for the police the same people would have been all over the media screaming bloody murder and making the usual accusations.
Le sigh.
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