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re: What is the real reason behind lifting the Cuba restrictions?
Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:10 pm to boosiebadazz
Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:10 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:Oh absolutely.
I think this was something Obama was going to do eventually regardless of whether Jeb declared or not.
Just would have come after some Earth-shattering, best-in-history-of-mankind, genius IQ, JFK-wasn't-even-this-bright type diplomacy. In Obamaworld this should have been a 30-day process of consistent MSM adulation.
The fact it wasn't, speaks volumes.
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:14 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
n their minds Obama caught the Jeb Bush exploratory committee announcement on CNN, then immediately called the pope and Castro up to broker a prisoner swap / release in order to... um... reduce the news coverage Jeb was getting?
No, it's to take away one of Jeb's key constituencies in Florida. If Jeb is to win the Presidency, he has to win Florida. By ending the Embargo, Obama now puts Jeb and the rest of the GOP on their heels, having to explain positions regarding Cuba and forcing them to pick a side on an issue with endless potential to be used to divide the Cuban electorate. No matter which stance the GOP takes, they can be bashed. If they're pro-embargo, they're anti-free trade, pro-communist, and denying freedom and opportunity to millions of people. If they're anti-embargo, they're flip-floppers and the democrats can use the issue as a wedge in the Cuban communities in Florida. If the Republicans can't win the Cubans in Florida, they probably can't win that state. Without Florida, the GOP has zero chance at the white house.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:24 pm to I Love Bama
quote:who the frick are you and where did you come from...what?...slow day on the OT?
I Love Bama
you'll find very few on PB that eats, shits and giggles according to one party or another.
when did you stop beating your wife?
Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:26 pm to lsuroadie
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:21 pm to lsuroadie
quote:
who the frick are you and where did you come from
Let's be real. You know who I am.
quote:
slow day on the OT
Exhibit A
quote:
when did you stop beating your wife?
Not married.
Show me where Saban touched you and I'll try and make it better. 21-0, you mad, etc.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 6:19 pm to weagle99
On the geopolitical table, he had the normalize relations with Cuba card showing. It was just a matter of how he played it. It's a counter to Putin in Ukraine, so he plays it sometime after Putin's move. Then Bush declares in FL and the Democrats are needing anything positive they can muster, makes now the correct political move.
It would've probably been too risky before the primaries. I agree with the poster that said this is the time for Obama to try to build his legacy. He hasn't got much else.
It would've probably been too risky before the primaries. I agree with the poster that said this is the time for Obama to try to build his legacy. He hasn't got much else.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 6:22 pm to weagle99
quote:
What is the real reason behind lifting the Cuba restrictions?
The pope.
quote:
Francis, who was elected last year and turned 78 on Wednesday, acted as the chief advocate for renewing diplomatic ties between Washington and Havana, officials said.
The Pope made a personal plea to President Barack Obama and Cuban leaders in a letter this summer, writing that the two nations should try to reset their relations after decades of friction.
"I want to thank His Holiness, Pope Francis, whose moral example shows us the importance of pursuing the world as it should be, rather than simply settling for the world as it is," Obama said Wednesday as he announced the U.S. policy shift on Cuba.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 6:25 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:
What is the real reason behind lifting the Cuba restrictions?
The pope.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 6:25 pm to I Love Bama
quote:
Why are Republicans against this? Can't believe I once called myself one.
Same here. I used to sit in the College Republicans meetings and look around the room and think... what a bunch of wusses. Why am I here?
Frankly I don't see how normal thinking Republicans here don't look at this board and wonder the same thing.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 6:26 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:Yet you are here?
I used to sit in the College Republicans meetings and look around the room and think... what a bunch of wusses. Why am I here?
Frankly I don't see how normal thinking Republicans here don't look at this board and wonder the same thing.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 6:26 pm to NC_Tigah
yeah right. Like Obama gives two shits about who will replace him in two years.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 6:29 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:
I used to sit in the College Republicans meetings and look around the room and think... what a bunch of wusses. Why am I here?
Frankly I don't see how normal thinking Republicans here don't look at this board and wonder the same thing.quote:
Yet you are here?quote:
yeah right. Like Obama gives two shits about who will replace him in two years.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 6:36 pm to NC_Tigah
Why the question?
Let me introduce you to SECCrazy and KCT. Birds of a feather?
The fact that you think a plea from the Pope when they met and continued mediation from him as well as the Canadians wasn't a key reason and Jeb MF Bush was... shows me all 3 of your may be flying overhead right now flying south together.
One year from today, you and your ilk will be saying the media and Obama are pushing Bush because they know he can be beat. That's what you guys said with Romney and before that McCain.
And you now think Obama is scared of Bush?
Let me introduce you to SECCrazy and KCT. Birds of a feather?
The fact that you think a plea from the Pope when they met and continued mediation from him as well as the Canadians wasn't a key reason and Jeb MF Bush was... shows me all 3 of your may be flying overhead right now flying south together.
One year from today, you and your ilk will be saying the media and Obama are pushing Bush because they know he can be beat. That's what you guys said with Romney and before that McCain.
And you now think Obama is scared of Bush?
Posted on 12/17/14 at 6:37 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
In their minds Obama caught the Jeb Bush exploratory committee announcement on CNN, then immediately called the pope and Castro up to broker a prisoner swap / release in order to... um... reduce the news coverage Jeb was getting
This
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:27 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:You Okay?
One year from today, you and your ilk will be saying the media and Obama are pushing Bush because they know he can be beat. That's what you guys said with Romney and before that McCain.
And you now think Obama is scared of Bush?
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:39 pm to I Love Bama
quote:who?
Saban
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:42 pm to weagle99
Obama is a socialist commie.
Why wouldn't he want to show Castro and Company the right way to turn a country into a commie Red State ?
Why wouldn't he want to show Castro and Company the right way to turn a country into a commie Red State ?
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:10 pm to kingbob
quote:So, in your mind, the ONLY reason he began many months ago to negotiate the prisoner release and begin to normalize relations with Cuba was because of the potential campaign of Jeb Bush? Aren't you too far along into the crazy conspiracy theories there?
No, it's to take away one of Jeb's key constituencies in Florida. If Jeb is to win the Presidency, he has to win Florida. By ending the Embargo, Obama now puts Jeb and the rest of the GOP on their heels, having to explain positions regarding Cuba and forcing them to pick a side on an issue with endless potential to be used to divide the Cuban electorate. No matter which stance the GOP takes, they can be bashed. If they're pro-embargo, they're anti-free trade, pro-communist, and denying freedom and opportunity to millions of people. If they're anti-embargo, they're flip-floppers and the democrats can use the issue as a wedge in the Cuban communities in Florida. If the Republicans can't win the Cubans in Florida, they probably can't win that state. Without Florida, the GOP has zero chance at the white house.
You also mention splitting the Cuban vote, which will largely split along the same lines that they did before today. People who were against normalizing relations with Cuba are just more angry today, while Cubans in favor of it will just be happier. Don't think the issue coming to pass will change their vote. Maybe in 4-6 years it will be a non-issue.
As for bashing Republicans who will now speak out against it, that could happen before. Only now Democrats will have to pick a side without simply siding with what the Republicans are saying.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:12 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
quote:For such a commie, he's doing a bad job of supporting the team. First Russia, and soon Cuba...
Obama is a socialist commie.
Some of you people are simply fascists who are disappointed you can't be in some sort of ruling class in the US.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:13 pm to weagle99
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