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I hate what the office of the presidency has become (not an Obama hate thread)

Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:03 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69294 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:03 pm
I don't know how the hell it happened, but the presidency has been transformed from an office that should be held by a qualified, capable leader, to an office that should be held by a figure that symbolizes the "social progress" of a nation. It's why things like "first woman president", or "first black president" are important to people.

Could be a potentially dangerous trend. The office of the presidency was never set up to be held by a figure whose very holding of the office is considered unprecedented. The office of the presidency was set up to be held by a competent leader who adheres to the guidelines of Article II of the constitution.

The reason I am saying this is because there will be millions upon millions of woman voting for Hillary solely because she is a woman, without even looking at her stances. For these voters, what matters is that the presidency is a symbol of social progress, not competence, moral decency, and prudent rule.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31635 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:06 pm to
This might happen twice, counting Obama.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
9801 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:08 pm to
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I don't know how the hell it happened,

Do you watch the nightly news? Social issues dominate. Gender and race issues dominate. At some point the populace begins to accept that our national fate hangs in the balance over these issues.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:08 pm to
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It's why things like "first woman president", or "first black president" are important to people.

Could be a potentially dangerous trend. The office of the presidency was never set up to be held by a figure whose very holding of the office is considered unprecedented. The office of the presidency was set up to be held by a competent leader who adheres to the guidelines of Article II of the constitution.



shite sort of started with Kennedy.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78581 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:08 pm to
Agreed. Without mentioning the current President by name, and it's certainly not exclusive to him,but the Office has been "Celebritized"-half politics, half People Magazine. It's just where a feminized society naturally drifts over time, Imho. That's how chicks roll. You leave the house and the news is on, you come back and they are watching Real Housewives. It never fails.

Edit-Watch Good Morning America some time. I knew it was bad. I had NO IDEA it was THAT bad.



This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 1:10 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35394 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:09 pm to
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but the presidency has been transformed from an office that should be held by a qualified, capable leader
I think the term "qualified" is a very loose concept.
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there will be millions upon millions of woman voting for Hillary solely because she is a woman
Would you not consider her "qualified"? Without looking at her stances and whether you agree.
Posted by Road Tiger
SW Landmass
Member since Oct 2014
834 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:12 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 2:53 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98182 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:16 pm to
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I think the term "qualified" is a very loose concept.


This. We've had some pretty inept men occupy that office. Apart from the first few presidents who all had a hand in the founding, it's been a crapshoot. Some statesmen, some hacks of the worst sort. It's not exclusive to recent history.
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
8962 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:17 pm to
If a community organizer was "qualified", then this ignorant bitch is too, if only by virtue of office held.

She couldn't keep her husband's cock in check, so how will she stand up to the real dick fricks like Putin or whatever the Iranian leader's name is?
Posted by Jim Ignatowski
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
1383 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

I don't know how the hell it happened, but the presidency has been transformed from an office that should be held by a qualified, capable leader, to an office that should be held by a figure that symbolizes the "social progress" of a nation. It's why things like "first woman president", or "first black president" are important to people.


It's called "Affirmative Action" and it has been an abysmal failure!!!!
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90598 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:19 pm to
What's funny is the progress can only come from a candidate on the left. A first black or woman president can't come from the GOP or else they are eviscerated by the media and Libs. Look at Palin or guys like Ben Carson considering running. The true colors of the left show that it isn't progress they want, but rather using race/gender to garner votes from those who feel victimized die to their race or gender, in order to win elections and further a leftist agenda.they can't win on pure leftist ideals without lying and making up faux social issues

True progress would be naturally electing a person based on his/her qualifications and policy and not looking at gender or skin color as reasons to vote for or against.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105407 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:20 pm to
Truth
Posted by Jim Ignatowski
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
1383 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

True progress would be naturally electing a person based on his/her qualifications and policy and not looking at gender or skin color as reasons to vote for or against.


Truth!!
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35394 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

If a community organizer was "qualified", then this ignorant bitch is too, if only by virtue of office held.

She couldn't keep her husband's cock in check, so how will she stand up to the real dick fricks like Putin or whatever the Iranian leader's name is?

You have way too much hate going on inside.
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
8962 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:40 pm to
No hate. She is ignorant. Not what she said, but how she said it during the probe into Benghazi proved that. There was an entirely more responsible and less reactionary way to respond to the simple questions being asked. She let her emotions get the best of her, and that can not be a common thing with a job like the PRESIDENCY. It just can't.

As for her inability to control her household, I stand by that remark. It says to me that she couldn't control her home life, a situation like the Benghazi probe, etc... What would lead me to think that if she had the keys to the nation she wouldn't take her hands off the wheel when things start to get out of control?
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

What's funny is the progress can only come from a candidate on the left. A first black or woman president can't come from the GOP or else they are eviscerated by the media and Libs. Look at Palin or guys like Ben Carson considering running.
There has only been one black or woman nominated, ever, by either party. Is the GOP not going to nominate a black or woman because they are scared of the media?
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:53 pm to
The republic is in decline. It's just that simple. We're Rome, essentially. The setting changes, but human nature never does.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112467 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 2:02 pm to
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shite sort of started with Kennedy.


Close. It started with giving women the right to vote. Women view govt as caretaker and provider. This tendency goes back before women's suffrage through the 19th amendment. Individual states preceded that and found a huge shift toward increased taxes for social spending.
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8397 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 2:28 pm to
LSU job >> UM job

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Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 2:30 pm to
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(not an Obama hate thread)



Oh, not interested then.
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