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What do I need to know about a GSP?

Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:34 am
Posted by RouxDog91
Denham Springs
Member since Mar 2014
170 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:34 am
I know a few of you have one. A great opportunity has come up for me to purchase one. I have a medium size house with medium size backyard, plenty of space to run around.

What else do I need to know? Any different than a lab?

TIA
Posted by OhFace55
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
7040 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:40 am to
:wick:
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32021 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:46 am to
dey fast
Posted by JTM72
BR, LA.
Member since Mar 2014
1186 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:49 am to
Owning 3 myself, with a medium sized house and a small-medium sized back yard. Exercise is key. I take my dogs out to run off leash every day. A lot of people say they are too tired, or don't have enough time to do that, blah blah blah. Honestly, it may seem like work at first, but I find it more relaxing and enjoyable than just sitting at home the rest of the evening after getting home from work. Keeping your dog on a routine schedule will also help out a lot.

Because of this, all 3 of mine are couch potatoes during the day at the house. They start to get a little antsy around 4, and when I start getting them ready to go run, they get wild. And typically are passed out before 9:30 every night.

I wouldn't say that exercising the dog every day is an absolute must, but 4-5 days a week, and you will find your dog much more enjoyable in the house.

As far as being the same or different than a a lab, I would say that a GSP has a higher energy level than a lab, but temperaments are pretty close to the same.

Are you planning on training your GSP for any sort of hunting? This is where a major difference occurs between labs and GSP's. In my experience in working with GSP's and labs, you cannot break down a GSP in training like you can a lab; a GSP will shut down and quit working if you put too much pressure, much faster than a lab will. Training a GSP requires much more patience than a lab. My 3 GSP's taught me more about patience than I ever would have thought.


ETA: Are you in the Baton Rouge area? I'd love to help you work with your pup for hunting, and/or just obedience training you would be interested.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 9:53 am
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45796 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:57 am to
They calm down some at 1 and more at age 2. They are great around kids but can have separation anxiety. They are great around people and kids, but they are going to want to hunt. They tend to like to hunt thinks alive and quickly loose interest when they die. Birds get first choice, but fur, lizards and dragon flies also work. They will take as much as you can dish out exercise wise and ask for more...
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4740 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:07 am to
I've never owned a GSP, but I grew up owning English Pointers ever since I was a kid for quail and dove hunting.

Exercise is the most important thing with pointers, and really all working breeds. They have a ton of energy. Good obedience training and making them work will keep them from getting bored though and using that energy to wreck your house. I hate seeing people get hunting breeds and don't train them at all or give them tasks to do, then get pissed when they misbehave and tear stuff up. Like all dogs patience is key while they are young, but pointer breeds may take a little more of it haha.

GSPs are beautiful dogs and you should definitely get one if you are willing to take on the responsibility of it.

ETA: What JTM said about them shutting down is definitely true. We hunt ours in the brush country in south Texas, when they get tired out there and their pads tore up from the brush and cactus, barking orders at them does nothing but shut them down even more. We have 3 in our family so we keep them on a good rotation to not completely wear them down.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 10:32 am
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3665 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:17 am to
I have one male ~1.5yo and he is an absolute ball of fire. He's a great dog, beyond loyal, but very needy. I try to work with him at least an hour a day throwing a bumper, or tennis ball. Sometimes there is enough live animals or insects in the yard where I can just sit outside and he'll chase the bird, squirells, and dragon flies on his own.

Mine digs, eats trees, and bamboo, and will chew on rocks and concrete. Despite all that he is very smart, and trainable.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32510 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:19 am to
Having owned labs and now having a GSP, do not expect just a faster, slimmer, short-haired lab!
GSPs are wonderful family dogs, tons of energy. Mine has calmed down at 4 years old and is wonderful with our newborn.
Hunting: the only problem I have is keeping him still while in the duck blind. he had a lot of trouble during force fetch which Ankther poster talked about. You hace to use other means of training other than constant pressure. If you are getting a male, establish yourself early or he will take over as pack leader. (I know, trite, but worth mentioning.) we called mine "violator when he was little because that bastard wanted to hump everything.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45796 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:27 am to
I have never had problems with my 3 chewing on thing. Now my oldest has broken out of every kennel I have ever put him in and learned to open doors with his teeth. That was a real problem till we starting putting a cheap nylon muzzle on him when we leave the house...
Posted by RouxDog91
Denham Springs
Member since Mar 2014
170 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:32 am to
Thanks for all of the info.

I would like to train her for ducks and doves, as well as the occasional rabbit hunt... But mostly birds.

I am in Denham and would definitely take all the help I can get JTM72. Thank you for the offer.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45796 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:35 am to
quote:

I would like to train her for ducks


Be warned, that is how I started with a GSP. I now have 3. I have found that many can be made to retrieve, but many do no have the heart of a retriever... Dead bird? frick that, lets go find something living...
Posted by JTM72
BR, LA.
Member since Mar 2014
1186 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:37 am to
quote:

I would like to train her for ducks and doves, as well as the occasional rabbit hunt... But mostly birds.


I can help with retrieving. not to big into rabbit hunting, but I imagine that a lot of that is instinct of them just smelling the rabbit and jumping them up.

When do you get your GSP?

And just curious, where are you getting yours from?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45796 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:40 am to
quote:

I can help with retrieving. not to big into rabbit hunting, but I imagine that a lot of that is instinct of them just smelling the rabbit and jumping them up.


Once that point something, if you shoot it, they will point it again... I have shot a couple over the years and the dogs will point them especially if the birds are slow.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39421 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:47 am to
As soon as I find a house with a legit yard, I'll most likely be getting a male GWP/Drathaar.
Posted by RouxDog91
Denham Springs
Member since Mar 2014
170 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:03 am to
I can go get her any day now. Just trying to make damn sure thats the route i want to take. She is at a family friends house here in town. They bought her and realized that they can't take care of her properly.
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3665 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:18 am to
JTM: you hunt on Cat Island? If so I think I might know who you are.
Posted by MSG
B.R.
Member since Dec 2007
11215 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:24 am to
quote:

What do I need to know about a GSP?
They're from Canada.. Like to rear naked choke, former UFC champion, speak terrible English., etc
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 11:26 am
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30449 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:33 pm to
1.u less your yard is county sized - don't expect a curious, energetic and motivated gsp to stay in it.


2. Whatever fencing can keep most dogs in- is a mere speed bump for a gsp or ep

3. Note afield where a lab on an upland hunt slows down and tires about an hour into


Most gsp or ep are just getting loose
Posted by Fat Neck
Member since Dec 2013
466 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

As soon as I find a house with a legit yard, I'll most likely be getting a male GWP/Drathaar.


You would do a VDD extreme injustice as owner
Posted by JTM72
BR, LA.
Member since Mar 2014
1186 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:09 pm to
I do not. Would like to though, just don't know that area at all.
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