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Real GM blog post on the Pels
Posted on 12/13/14 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 12/13/14 at 4:14 pm
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Posted on 12/13/14 at 5:20 pm to LosLobos111
Good article. The part that stood out is Monty trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.
But the author makes a good point about our foundation. We have a solid 5 piece foundation. We need to spend the next couple of years building our depth. And fire Monty of course.
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Why is a team with Anthony Davis ranked 24th in the NBA in pace? In what universe does that make any sense? In college, Kentucky went 38-2 with Davis and Terrence Jones doing rim runs for 40 minutes and there isn’t a big man in the NBA who can keep up with Davis in the open court. When they played in Dallas, Phoenix pushed at every opportunity, winning 118-106. New Orleans, in contrast, slowed the game a lot, letting the Mavs win 112-107. Given Monty Williams' background in San Antonio, it makes sense that he would try to turn Davis into Tim Duncan. However, Davis is a much different type of 7’0, particularly at this point in his career, as he’s nowhere near as thick as Duncan. A team with Anthony Davis on it should be trying to score 120 points a night, at least until he gets into his mid 20’s, when he has more weight on his frame and becomes more dialed in on defense.
But the author makes a good point about our foundation. We have a solid 5 piece foundation. We need to spend the next couple of years building our depth. And fire Monty of course.
Posted on 12/13/14 at 8:03 pm to LSUzealot
Yep
Davis, Holiday, and Evans are built to run.
Davis, Holiday, and Evans are built to run.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 3:07 am to Colonel Flagg
I agree with this article.
I know half of this board wants to trade EG/Ryno/WolveReke but I just don't see those guys getting worse over the next 1-3 years.
Look at the Spurs. The main reason they are stacked year in and year out is because they never make major roster moves. Virtually every contributor has been on their team for multiple years.
If you want to trade major pieces year in and year out we are NEVER going to get much better.
I know half of this board wants to trade EG/Ryno/WolveReke but I just don't see those guys getting worse over the next 1-3 years.
Look at the Spurs. The main reason they are stacked year in and year out is because they never make major roster moves. Virtually every contributor has been on their team for multiple years.
If you want to trade major pieces year in and year out we are NEVER going to get much better.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 7:49 am to JohnnyKilroy
Only difference is, their continuity is based off good players on contracts that equal their play. Fill it in with solid FA pickups that goes under the radar/isn't big name and solid drafting and trading for key young players.
We have two players on hefty contracts that outweigh their current play, that makes it hard to create depth. We're also missing key role players and an actual starting caliber sf
We have two players on hefty contracts that outweigh their current play, that makes it hard to create depth. We're also missing key role players and an actual starting caliber sf
Posted on 12/14/14 at 7:52 am to htran90
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We have two players on hefty contracts that outweigh their current play,
Gordon and whom else?
Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:35 am to LosLobos111
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Most criticisms of the team’s moves begin with their decision to trade two first-round picks for Holiday, which the Philadelphia 76ers turned into Nerlens Noel and Dario Saric. Of course, with Noel still coming back from knee surgery and Saric staying in Europe for the next few seasons, it’s not like the Pellies would be much better this season with those picks. In that scenario, can you imagine the criticism they would get if they were sitting at five wins right now?
My suspicion is that when people criticize New Orleans for some of the moves they have made, they are letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. With how insanely competitive the West is at the moment, there are not many sequences of moves the Pellies could have made to where they would be favored to make the playoffs. From there, given the type of numbers that Davis was going to put up, people were always going to be speculating about 2017.
this needs to be beaten into people's heads
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
The thing is we've gone from slow build vs fast build to "every move we've made is just wrong." There are legit arguments for slow build vs. fast build, but don't just say something is wrong without saying what you would have done that's better. I can see a valid argument for there being better options than giving up Vasquez and Lopez for Tyreke. I still haven't seen a Holiday do over that isn't a lateral move at best.
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:54 pm to TigerinATL
as of now
tyreke looks like a potential miss (esp with monty running things)
holiday looks like a very good, possibly great move
asik is still too early to call. biggest variable is getting him signed after this year
one underrated aspect about roster building is having salary to trade. if tyreke is a miss, that may still work out b/c we can deal him (and his salary) down the road. keeping lopez/vasquez doesn't allow this on the same level
tyreke looks like a potential miss (esp with monty running things)
holiday looks like a very good, possibly great move
asik is still too early to call. biggest variable is getting him signed after this year
one underrated aspect about roster building is having salary to trade. if tyreke is a miss, that may still work out b/c we can deal him (and his salary) down the road. keeping lopez/vasquez doesn't allow this on the same level
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:54 pm to Colonel Flagg
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Davis, Holiday, and Evans are built to run.
Except that Tyreke never passes on fast breaks
This post was edited on 12/14/14 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
Tyrekes contract is also descending, which could be an even better asset as the cap increases.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 2:54 pm to LosLobos111
I'd say tyreke from his inconsistent play, but it's mainly Gordon.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 3:19 pm to htran90
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I'd say tyreke from his inconsistent play
Tyreke has been inconsistent yes but he's at least given us solid production more often than not and has won us games on his own.
His contract is declining and will be looked at as a bargain compared to what's been given to some.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 3:42 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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Except that Tyreke never passes on fast breaks
Funny thing about "never" is....
it means never.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 3:54 pm to LosLobos111
Agreed. If his production was consistent I'd think it'd be fine. Issue is one game he'll blow up and we just rout a team. Then the next just stick and it costs us games.
I'm just referring to how the contracts we have and production vs. San Antonio and their
I'm just referring to how the contracts we have and production vs. San Antonio and their
Posted on 12/14/14 at 3:58 pm to htran90
SA is a special case though.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 4:05 pm to LosLobos111
Of course. We just need to slow down the build at this point. We have a center that fits AD, we have a stretch 4 that can play well with him offensively, we have a solid pg with a low to rate.
Tyreke and Gordon are two that fit the team, but one is injury prone and the other is not dependable to make the correct pass. It comes down to depth and solid drafting and we need to do that starting ad's 5yr extension but we all know that.
Tyreke and Gordon are two that fit the team, but one is injury prone and the other is not dependable to make the correct pass. It comes down to depth and solid drafting and we need to do that starting ad's 5yr extension but we all know that.
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