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Whoops! Bye-Bye McCain-Feingold. Didn't see THAT coming.

Posted on 12/10/14 at 5:37 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/10/14 at 5:37 pm
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Spending deal would allow wealthy donors to dramatically increase giving to national parties
By Matea Gold
December 9, 2014


The end-of-year spending bill deal crafted by congressional leaders Tuesday would dramatically expand the amount of money that wealthy political donors could inject into the national parties, drastically undercutting the 2002 landmark McCain-Feingold campaign finance overhaul.

The language – inserted on page 1,599 of the 1,603-page bill – would allow individuals to give three times the annual cap on national party donations to three additional party committees set up for the purposes of the presidential conventions, building expenses and election recounts.

That means that a donor who gave the maximum $32,400 this year to the Democratic National Committee or Republican National Committee would be able to donate another $291,600 on top of that to the party’s additional arms -- a total of $324,000, ten times the current limit.

In a two-year election cycle, a couple could give $1,296,000 to a party's various accounts.

Advocates for lessening the impact of big money on politics reacted with dismay, saying the move would effectively gut contribution limits.

"This makes the Great Train Robbery look like a petty misdemeanor," said Fred Wertheimer, president of the advocacy group Democracy 21. "These provisions have never been considered by the House or Senate, and were never even publicly mentioned before today.

"Republican and Democratic congressional leaders have entered into a Faustian bargain to return the massive corrupting contributions raised by federal officeholders for the national parties that Congress banned in the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002," he added.

Adam Smith, spokesman for the group Every Voice, said in a statement, “Very few people can write checks almost twice the size of the country’s median income, but that’s what this provision will allow.

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Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98474 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 5:39 pm to
fricking thieves.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 5:43 pm to
but at least they had time to criminalize pot in D.C........
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123780 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 5:46 pm to
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fricking thieves.


Should I have posted it "Buy-Buy McCain-Feingold"

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118670 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 5:56 pm to
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"Buy-Buy McCain-Feingold"



Exactly.
Posted by stormy
Member since Sep 2014
578 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 6:04 pm to
This is for dumb arse people who think money is free speech and corporations are people!
Posted by StrangeBrew
Salvation Army-Thanks Obama
Member since May 2009
18183 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 6:20 pm to
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stormy


Hey REX or SpidermanFUPA
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22495 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 6:24 pm to
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thieves
All.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34868 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 6:33 pm to
It's not the money (ads) that is harmful; it's the fact that Gruber was right about a large % of the electorate. They are "stupid" enough to be influenced by mass ads and liars like him and his Boss, instead of recognizing truth in candidates.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 6:33 pm to
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fricking thieves.


This.

Shame on anybody who's willing to keep their representative or senator in congress after this.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123780 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 6:36 pm to
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Shame on anybody who's willing to keep their representative or senator
Mine are very kept
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51482 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 6:41 pm to
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It was not immediately clear who authored the provision.


Every change to a bill should have a notation of who sponsored it.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68041 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 6:53 pm to
I thought this board was supportive of lessened govt regulation and increased freedom. Why not allow people to donate what they see fit?

How is it thieving if people voluntarily donate?

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123780 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:06 pm to
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I thought this board was supportive of lessened govt regulation and increased freedom. Why not allow people to donate what they see fit?

How is it thieving if people voluntarily donate?
Oh I'm just having fun with this.

I've actually given a fair amount of money to political efforts, i.e., capped out on donations to various political campaigns many times over the years. Giving to a PAC rather than directly to a candidate never excited me. So I'm actually good with this as a more direct process.

It simply came out of nowhere. Someone was pretty slick.

This post was edited on 12/10/14 at 7:08 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68041 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 7:18 pm to
I see. But I'm still a bit surprised by the responses. As for me, I'm undecided about it.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 8:05 pm to
I would much prefer a repeal of McCain-Feingold than an exception carved out specifically for the two establishment parties. This leaves the limits intact if someone wants to support the Libertarians, Greens, or an Independent candidate, but makes them especially high for Rs and Ds.
Posted by beachreb61
Long Beach, MS
Member since Nov 2009
1715 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:46 pm to
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This is for dumb arse people who think money is free speech and corporations are people!


If corporations aren't people then why do they pay tax? And the their employees and stockholders pay tax again on already taxed money?
Posted by DEANintheYAY
LEFT COAST
Member since Jan 2008
31975 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:30 am to
Further entrenchment of American oligarchy
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:33 am to
How does that make them people? At all?

Moron.
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
17815 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 2:45 am to
DC needs to be burned to the ground. Seriously. Fricking slimeballs is what they are. Disgusting.
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