As I have already stated today, I think the best determination of a team's strength is how they did against current Top 25 teams (and how they did against teams outside the Top 25). It isn't an exact science but a decent indicator. With that, I think that if Alabama, Oregon and Florida State all win, they are in. Not so sure about anyone else.

Assuming they won this weekend:

Alabama would be 4-1 against top 25, and no losses against teams outside top 25.

Oregon would be would be 4-1 against top 25, and no losses against teams outside top 25.

Florida State would be would be 3-0 against top 25, and no losses against teams outside top 25.

Baylor would be 3-0 against top 25, but lost to a team outside the top 25.

Arizona would be 3-2 against top 25, and no losses against teams outside top 25.

TCU would be 2-1 against top 25, and no losses against teams outside top 25.

Ohio State would be 2-0 against top 25, but lost to a team outside the top 25.

Despite their putrid OOC schedule, I think Baylor makes it to at least No. 4 if they beat Kansas State. They will have the more wins vs. Top 25 teams than TCU (which, of course, includes the head to head victory over TCU).

I think Ohio State needs the most help as they have played the fewest games against Top 25.

Thoughts?

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Posted by Hold That Tiger 10

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Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:21 pm to Chicken

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Thoughts?

It should be Baylor, but it wont.

If Bama, Oregon, FSU, TCU, Baylor, OSU all win I see the top 4 being..

1. Bama
2. Oregon
3. FSU
4. TCU

Baylor needs somebody to lose.

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Posted by Chicken

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Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:26 pm to Hold That Tiger 10

I think Baylor overtakes TCU once the committee gets to evaluate their entire schedule. Baylor has not played Kansas State yet. Once they do, TCU's advantage erodes...

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Posted by MrCoachKlein

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Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:28 pm to Hold That Tiger 10

FSU isn't beating GT

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Posted by Buckeye06

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Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:34 pm to MrCoachKlein

I found it interesting that they dropped Minny out of the top 25 after they lost to Wisky.

Before AND after OSU beat them, Minny was 25, as if to help out OSU's schedule. They go 1-1 on the road against Nebraska and Wisky, and they drop out...the same weekend OSU's qb gets hurt

I honestly think the committee did what they did to put a buffer between TCU and OSU/Baylor. If all teams win out, there is too much of a gap between TCU and Baylor/OSU to overcome likely

I think once Barrett went down, they decided they didn't want OSU in if possible

Not sure I want OSU in as of today if they get matched up with Bama in the semis with a 3rd string qb. So I am not really blaming the committee

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Posted by dante

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Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:44 pm to Chicken

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I think Baylor overtakes TCU once the committee gets to evaluate their entire schedule. Baylor has not played Kansas State yet. Once they do, TCU's advantage erodes...

that is the correct answer. BUT I think OSU gets the nod by winning the Big10 CG. Remember the committee said they would take injuries into account and in OSU's only loss their 2nd string qb was making his first start.

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Posted by castorinho

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Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:48 pm to Chicken

You need to slow down with all these threads before an admin takes care of you.

seriously

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Posted by KillerNut9

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Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:50 pm to dante

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OSU's only loss their 2nd string qb was making his first start.

It was his second start, as well as a majority of the OL. I don't think that's enough though. Ohio State needs a top 4 loss.

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Posted by Chicken

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Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:50 pm to castorinho

that's three today on this board...I am done!

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Posted by dante

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Posted on 12/5/14 at 5:03 pm to KillerNut9

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It was his second start

I hate it when I'm wrong.

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Posted by TheOcean

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Posted on 12/5/14 at 6:13 pm to MrCoachKlein

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FSU isn't beating GT

Deja vu...Clemson, notre dame, Louisville, Florida, and Miami.

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Posted by wm72

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Posted on 12/5/14 at 6:33 pm to Buckeye06

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I found it interesting that they dropped Minny out of the top 25 after they lost to Wisky.

Of course 99% of conversation has been on the committee's ranking of the teams around the Top 4.

However, I've found it interesting to look closely at the bottom of the top 25 each week.

To make a long story short, it's really not seemed to follow much of the same logic (for ex: overall resume with quality wins) as they apply to the top 10 or so.

For that reason, although people keep posting contenders' records against the "Top 25" I don't think the committee is being quite so black and white about it. I simply that mean that I think they're considering Minnesota a pretty good win whether they end up being #23 or #29 on their list.

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