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re: Remington 700 Recall and Replace millions of Triggers
Posted on 12/6/14 at 3:53 pm to TutHillTiger
Posted on 12/6/14 at 3:53 pm to TutHillTiger
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5th, May i suggest you be sure to point the gun at your head every time you got hunting right before you touch the safety, especially in cold weather so you can probe your point or Darwin's law. But if you chose not to recall this gun, (you can wait until after hunting season) and some child is injured, I hope they bury you in prison.
There's no need for all of this.
You can easily prove your point against me without suggesting I shoot myself or go to prison.
I already stated I changed my trigger on the one I use and the other will not get used anymore or sold unless the trigger is swapped out.
You win.
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 4:39 pm to upgrade
My 243 model 700 was manufactured in 1962. I think that exempts it.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 7:31 pm to TutHillTiger
First, you are clueless since even in that thread it was pointed out to you several times that the 700 and 770 do not share the same trigger systems.
WRONG. The statement was taken out of context in obvious activism journalism you obviously and repeatedly have failed to do your own background research on. Nevermind that the "expert" is a paid witness hired specifically for lawsuits involving firearms manufacturers and admitted on tape that he has no practical experience with the Remington 700 trigger system.
I hope you suck-start the next loaded 12ga you get your hands on. You are a miserable piece of shite.
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Second, This trigger system has a design defect per the engineer that designed it and told them about it and how to fix it 30 years ago. I am just a lawyer but generally I go with the fricking guy that built and designed the product.
WRONG. The statement was taken out of context in obvious activism journalism you obviously and repeatedly have failed to do your own background research on. Nevermind that the "expert" is a paid witness hired specifically for lawsuits involving firearms manufacturers and admitted on tape that he has no practical experience with the Remington 700 trigger system.
quote:
May i suggest you be sure to point the gun at your head every time you got hunting right before you touch the safety, especially in cold weather so you can probe your point or Darwin's law. But if you chose not to recall this gun, (you can wait until after hunting season) and some child is injured, I hope they bury you in prison.
I hope you suck-start the next loaded 12ga you get your hands on. You are a miserable piece of shite.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:23 am to TutHillTiger
quote:
5th, May i suggest you be sure to point the gun at your head every time you got hunting right before you touch the safety, especially in cold weather so you can probe your point or Darwin's law. But if you chose not to recall this gun, (you can wait until after hunting season) and some child is injured, I hope they bury you in prison.
Way overboard on the response........
Such a response adds nothing to the discussion and does nothing to advance your argument.Posted on 12/7/14 at 8:57 am to TigerOnThe Hill
I've had issues with my trigger and I'm glad they are finally addressing it. Twice I have had issues that could have ended badly for a person with less experience with firearms.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:28 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
There's no need for all of this.
You can easily prove your point against me without suggesting I shoot myself or go to prison.
I already stated I changed my trigger on the one I use and the other will not get used anymore or sold unless the trigger is swapped out.
You win.
My apologies, you are correct and I am just tired of seeing hurt kids and all the bullshite on these boards. I assumed you were a Remington Plant. I know from other litigation that we have discovered that people are paid to go around and respond to online discussion about defective products attacking the writers, victims, etc. (Ford Firestone etc) It is big business. I apologize and have taken that out.
My only purpose if here for us not be reading about another dead child. I would not wish that on anyone, particularly when it is preventable.
When half of the people at one of the oldest hunting clubs in the state with 100's of years experience and thousands of kills, (almost always a top ten every year), including a former State Wildlife Commissioner and retired Ranger, and member of Legislature's Wildlife Committee all had the same issue there is a problem with the damn gun. Children do have choices, we make them and they live with the consequences. They have recalled all of them, they have admitted their is a problem. This discussion is over. Watch the you tube video if you have any doubts. You can do the experiment yourself and probably see if you have an issue.
I know from prior experience The recall will take years and most guns will never be fixed. (Less than 40% of Firestone tires that killed over 200 people were ever returned. I helped a guy replace one that separated years later on a highway in Mississippi. He admitted he knew it was bad but bought it for 20 bucks. Please just be careful with these guns. Put them on target before you touch the safety.
BTW, I think they should have to pay you something for being responsible and already changing the damn trigger. God knows how many lives that has saved. (Just money for them)
You can easily prove your point against me without suggesting I shoot myself or go to prison.
I already stated I changed my trigger on the one I use and the other will not get used anymore or sold unless the trigger is swapped out.
You win.
My apologies, you are correct and I am just tired of seeing hurt kids and all the bullshite on these boards. I assumed you were a Remington Plant. I know from other litigation that we have discovered that people are paid to go around and respond to online discussion about defective products attacking the writers, victims, etc. (Ford Firestone etc) It is big business. I apologize and have taken that out.
My only purpose if here for us not be reading about another dead child. I would not wish that on anyone, particularly when it is preventable.
When half of the people at one of the oldest hunting clubs in the state with 100's of years experience and thousands of kills, (almost always a top ten every year), including a former State Wildlife Commissioner and retired Ranger, and member of Legislature's Wildlife Committee all had the same issue there is a problem with the damn gun. Children do have choices, we make them and they live with the consequences. They have recalled all of them, they have admitted their is a problem. This discussion is over. Watch the you tube video if you have any doubts. You can do the experiment yourself and probably see if you have an issue.
I know from prior experience The recall will take years and most guns will never be fixed. (Less than 40% of Firestone tires that killed over 200 people were ever returned. I helped a guy replace one that separated years later on a highway in Mississippi. He admitted he knew it was bad but bought it for 20 bucks. Please just be careful with these guns. Put them on target before you touch the safety.
BTW, I think they should have to pay you something for being responsible and already changing the damn trigger. God knows how many lives that has saved. (Just money for them)
Posted on 10/21/15 at 9:11 pm to TutHillTiger
What has been everyone turn around time for the this.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 9:35 pm to TutHillTiger
Since the recall I have put timney triggers in a 3 of my 700's.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 7:49 am to TigerOnThe Hill
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the recall referenced by the OP does NOT apply to the Model 770
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settlement covers more than a dozen models, specifically the Model 700, Seven, Sportsman 78, 673, 710, 715, 770
Posted on 10/22/15 at 8:43 am to Rize
I put a Timney straight trigger in my .270 last year. It is very very nice.
Posted on 10/22/15 at 9:38 am to ynlvr
I'm still boycotting Remington, so I'm good.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:31 pm to Ace Midnight
Here is the actual Website to send your gun in. It covers both the Xmark and regular triggers. The damn Remington site only talks about Xmark but if u call them they will give this to you. If you are trying to get though hunting season this year, OK. Just no kids please and be careful. Unload the damn things going to and out of stands and on ATV's.
LINK
I think a great way to check for possible issues is to get gun gold put in freezer maybe and check it like the guy did in this u tube video. If the pin fires send it in, if not and u want to wait you are probably ok.
shows it happening:
LINK
Shows how to check:
LINK
Notice all problems seem to be in cold weather. I would check my gun every am just to be sure. it obviously doesn't happen in every gun, but almost everyone in our 15 man hunting club had this problem on at least one occasion with a 700 or a friend or relative that did. Scared the hell out of me last year.
They will pay shipping and make the needed repair. U can also just put a Timmey trigger on them for about 200 bucks.
Please be safe guys, and don't trust teenagers or kids to always use proper safety techniques, even though you taught them well and they are good kids etc. They brains are not fully developed and they are all bullet proof just like you and I were at that age. That is why they are not legal responsible for their behavior. You are responsible for their safety.
LINK
I think a great way to check for possible issues is to get gun gold put in freezer maybe and check it like the guy did in this u tube video. If the pin fires send it in, if not and u want to wait you are probably ok.
shows it happening:
LINK
Shows how to check:
LINK
Notice all problems seem to be in cold weather. I would check my gun every am just to be sure. it obviously doesn't happen in every gun, but almost everyone in our 15 man hunting club had this problem on at least one occasion with a 700 or a friend or relative that did. Scared the hell out of me last year.
They will pay shipping and make the needed repair. U can also just put a Timmey trigger on them for about 200 bucks.
Please be safe guys, and don't trust teenagers or kids to always use proper safety techniques, even though you taught them well and they are good kids etc. They brains are not fully developed and they are all bullet proof just like you and I were at that age. That is why they are not legal responsible for their behavior. You are responsible for their safety.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 3:04 pm to ynlvr
I have a 700 in .280. 3 years ago I was on my way to the stand and it was 4 of us on a cart. Doe standing in the road so I jump off to shoot her. Trigger would not pull on the gun at all like it was on safety. keeping her in the scope I fooled with the safety and was jerking the trigger and it wouldn't budge. lifted my head from the scope while simultaneously putting it back on safety and the gun fired.
Brought the gun home and cleaned it up and shot it 5 times without an issue. A week or so later im in the stand and have an 8pt come out. Gun does the same thing but this time doesn't fire when I put the safety back on. keep trying it and when the trigger finally pulls it light strikes the bullet. I bolted 5 different bullets through that gun aiming at that deer and all of them were light strikes. Again, I bring it home and it shoots fine. Brought it to a gun smith that couldn't find an issue. I ended up getting him to replace the whole trigger and safety
Brought the gun home and cleaned it up and shot it 5 times without an issue. A week or so later im in the stand and have an 8pt come out. Gun does the same thing but this time doesn't fire when I put the safety back on. keep trying it and when the trigger finally pulls it light strikes the bullet. I bolted 5 different bullets through that gun aiming at that deer and all of them were light strikes. Again, I bring it home and it shoots fine. Brought it to a gun smith that couldn't find an issue. I ended up getting him to replace the whole trigger and safety
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