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Remington 700 Recall and Replace millions of Triggers
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:42 pm
quote:
America's oldest gun manufacturer, Remington, has agreed to replace millions of triggers in its most popular product—the Model 700 rifle. The company has been riddled for years with claims the gun can fire without the trigger being pulled, often with deadly results.
Remington Recall Settlement
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:47 pm to ynlvr
Is the recall on the X-Marks or on the older ones?
Posted on 12/5/14 at 3:54 pm to MisterSenator
The article does not detail which guns qualify for the recall, but goes into detail about complaints and a recommended fix back to 1948. It mentions this about the X-Mark.
quote:
Meanwhile, Remington's replacement for the Walker trigger, dubbed the X-Mark Pro, has had issues of its own. Earlier this year, Remington recalled thousands of X-Mark Pro models manufactured since 2006, after determining that "excess bonding agent used in the assembly process" could cause the guns to unintentionally discharge. But the company continued to resist a much broader action involving the 700 series rifles, until now.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:31 pm to ynlvr
The recall was initiated in April of this year, it is for any 700 with an XMP trigger - you can go to their website to see if you need to send your gun back. Any gun produced after April 9th of this year is OK.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:36 pm to swanny297
quote:so that leaves about a billion Remington rifles fricked then huh from that?
Any gun produced after April 9th of this year is OK.
This post was edited on 12/5/14 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 12/5/14 at 4:43 pm to Bama and Beer
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The company's owner, Cerberus Capital Management, announced plans to exit the gun business in 2012 following the deadly school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, but has yet to find a buyer.
Looks like Cerberus missed an opportunity. Seems like they should have gotten a decent offer when gun sales hit the roof after Newtown. Worth less today. Until the next threat to gun ownership.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 6:49 pm to DownSouthJukin
Downsouth is correct + A billion
Posted on 12/5/14 at 7:30 pm to ynlvr
I do not want to change anything on my 700 bdl.
There is a lot of things I love, and one of them is my 30.06 deer rifle.
My trigger has always done everything I asked it to do, Should I send it in to be messed with by folks who are charged with changing a billion triggers... especially during deer season?
Nope. I will keep mine the way it is, take my chances and be aware that there may be a potential problem.
There is a lot of things I love, and one of them is my 30.06 deer rifle.
My trigger has always done everything I asked it to do, Should I send it in to be messed with by folks who are charged with changing a billion triggers... especially during deer season?
Nope. I will keep mine the way it is, take my chances and be aware that there may be a potential problem.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 8:02 pm to GoT1de
I have two 700s and I love them both.
That said, I put a timney on my 2011 one.
My older one is in retirement for now, but if I put I'm back into service I'll probably go with another timney there too.
That said, I put a timney on my 2011 one.
My older one is in retirement for now, but if I put I'm back into service I'll probably go with another timney there too.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 11:58 pm to upgrade
I told you guys. Believe me now.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 12:04 am to TutHillTiger
Warning to everyone with the Remington 770's (Walmart Academy guns) (Posted on 11/10/14 at 9:28 pm)00
I bought one of these a few years ago about 6 months before I saw the MSNBC expose of them. I am a lawyer and know a lot of gun experts and gun lawyers. They all said that my gun was fine and not affected by the recall etc. It was a starter gun for my son, and he has killed many deer with it.
This Saturday, when in the stand with him I loaded the gun, as like many of these models it is difficult to do as the damn bold just doesn't slide well even with fresh gun oil. It was dark and I was not sure it picked up the cartridge so I checked and It would not open. As I touched the safety to move it so that I could unbolt the damn thing when off. There was nothing within 2 feet of the trigger. It was about 40 degrees. (Watch you tube and you will understand why this is important.) If this had been my son i would not have believed it. This is the second occurrence with these guns at our little camp in the last 5 years. When I got back in there were several other stories of people having the same occurrence with these guns. Why these damn things are on the market I don't know. They did recall a bunch last year. I am filing a report, etc on this incident.
I understand that Remington are real mfers about this from attorneys that handle these claims. I am going to find out from my buddies what the fix it for this, but please be very very careful with these fricking guns, and I would not let a child touch them.
My son went on to kill a decent 8 pt, with a 260 Ruger btw.
LINK
Recall info:
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MSNBC: Remington Under Fire show
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This post was edited on 11/10 at 9:42 pm
I bought one of these a few years ago about 6 months before I saw the MSNBC expose of them. I am a lawyer and know a lot of gun experts and gun lawyers. They all said that my gun was fine and not affected by the recall etc. It was a starter gun for my son, and he has killed many deer with it.
This Saturday, when in the stand with him I loaded the gun, as like many of these models it is difficult to do as the damn bold just doesn't slide well even with fresh gun oil. It was dark and I was not sure it picked up the cartridge so I checked and It would not open. As I touched the safety to move it so that I could unbolt the damn thing when off. There was nothing within 2 feet of the trigger. It was about 40 degrees. (Watch you tube and you will understand why this is important.) If this had been my son i would not have believed it. This is the second occurrence with these guns at our little camp in the last 5 years. When I got back in there were several other stories of people having the same occurrence with these guns. Why these damn things are on the market I don't know. They did recall a bunch last year. I am filing a report, etc on this incident.
I understand that Remington are real mfers about this from attorneys that handle these claims. I am going to find out from my buddies what the fix it for this, but please be very very careful with these fricking guns, and I would not let a child touch them.
My son went on to kill a decent 8 pt, with a 260 Ruger btw.
LINK
Recall info:
LINK
MSNBC: Remington Under Fire show
LINK
This post was edited on 11/10 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 12/6/14 at 5:53 am to Bama and Beer
I shoot savage I could care less if a billion Remington's are screwed up
Posted on 12/6/14 at 6:44 am to TutHillTiger
quote:
Warning to everyone with the Remington 770's (Walmart Academy guns) (Posted on 11/10/14 at 9:28 pm)00 I bought one of these a few years ago about 6 months before I saw the MSNBC expose of them. I am a lawyer and know a lot of gun experts and gun lawyers. They all said that my gun was fine and not affected by the recall etc. It was a starter gun for my son, and he has killed many deer with it.
First of all, I would never own a 770, or any of the discount bolt actions made by Remington, or any other company.
I will continue to consider the 700's for any future rifle purchase.
Second, I'm still not on board with with the MSNBC special. I know plenty of people with the OLD triggers (pre X Mark triggers) that DIDN'T try to make adjustments on them, and their triggers are fine.
Third, your a lawyer and bought your son a 770?
I'm a dirty, trashy construction worker, and would not buy that for my son.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 7:28 am to upgrade
quote:And a douche as well. Thanks for letting us know.
Third, your a lawyer and bought your son a 770? I'm a dirty, trashy construction worker, and would not buy that for my son.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:38 am to TutHillTiger
As a matter of clarification, the trigger problem TutHillTiger had was w/ a Remington 770. OTOH, the recall referenced by the OP does NOT apply to the Model 770. According to the article:
Remington's earlier recall dealt w/ the XMP trigger. From the Remington website.
There may, or may not, be problems w/ the 770 trigger, but at this point a Google search doesn't show that Remington has issued a recall for the 770 trigger.
quote:
The settlement covers more than a dozen models, specifically the Model 700, Seven, Sportsman 78, 673, 710, 715, 770, 600, 660, XP-100, 721, 722 and 725.
quote:\
Under the proposed settlement, Remington will offer to replace the Walker triggers with the replacement mechanism developed following the settlement with Barber. That trigger is known as the X-Mark Pro
Remington's earlier recall dealt w/ the XMP trigger. From the Remington website.
quote:
PRODUCTS: Remington Arms Company, LLC (“Remington”) is voluntarily recalling Remington Model 700™ and Model Seven™ rifles with X-Mark Pro® (“XMP®”) triggers, manufactured from May 1, 2006 to April 9, 2014.
There may, or may not, be problems w/ the 770 trigger, but at this point a Google search doesn't show that Remington has issued a recall for the 770 trigger.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 1:34 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
Upgrade.
First, there were a lot of Firestone wilderness AT Tires that didn't separate too, and pinto's that didnt exploded, etc. No one has ever made a product where every single one of them was defective unless it is a complete design failure like lawn darts, or the street stakes of 70's even then lots of people were not killed or injured by them just 10,0000's. Even the worthless CPSC would catch a product that failed every fricking time.
Second, This trigger system has a design defect per the engineer that designed it and told them about it and how to fix it 30 years ago. I am just a lawyer but generally I go with the fricking guy that built and designed the product.
Third, I have the draft of the proposed agreement and it includes the 770. I would lead the objector class if it didn't. We were scheduled to meet with them on this issue in January and they were going to test my son's gun and some other 770's that had reported same problems. May I suggest to the OB community that they already did the test on other exemplars and knew what the results would be. Failing the test in front of a group of trial lawyers with a personal beef and no confidentiality agreement would be business suicide. I don't agree to confidentially agreement where products remain on the market hurting people. My whole family was almost killed by a Explorer Firestone Wilderness AT tire separation issue that was covered up by CA's.
4th, I bought the gun as last minute gift and I had to drive 150 miles to get it as al,most all youth models were sold out, and I was told by the gun expert buddies the problem was fixed on that model now.
First, there were a lot of Firestone wilderness AT Tires that didn't separate too, and pinto's that didnt exploded, etc. No one has ever made a product where every single one of them was defective unless it is a complete design failure like lawn darts, or the street stakes of 70's even then lots of people were not killed or injured by them just 10,0000's. Even the worthless CPSC would catch a product that failed every fricking time.
Second, This trigger system has a design defect per the engineer that designed it and told them about it and how to fix it 30 years ago. I am just a lawyer but generally I go with the fricking guy that built and designed the product.
Third, I have the draft of the proposed agreement and it includes the 770. I would lead the objector class if it didn't. We were scheduled to meet with them on this issue in January and they were going to test my son's gun and some other 770's that had reported same problems. May I suggest to the OB community that they already did the test on other exemplars and knew what the results would be. Failing the test in front of a group of trial lawyers with a personal beef and no confidentiality agreement would be business suicide. I don't agree to confidentially agreement where products remain on the market hurting people. My whole family was almost killed by a Explorer Firestone Wilderness AT tire separation issue that was covered up by CA's.
4th, I bought the gun as last minute gift and I had to drive 150 miles to get it as al,most all youth models were sold out, and I was told by the gun expert buddies the problem was fixed on that model now.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 12/6/14 at 2:17 pm to TutHillTiger
quote:
This trigger system has a design defect per the engineer that designed it and told them about it and how to fix it 30 years ago.
Exactly. If the guy who designed it says it has problems, I'd go with his word, and not wait to experience my own problem. To paraphrase Tommy Boy: you can get a good look at a steak by sticking your head up a steer's arse, but why not take the butcher's word for it?
I've had several 700's that never had a problem. When this all came out, I just bought and installed a Timney (w/safety) in the one I had at the time because, (1) it is far better than any factory Remington trigger, (2) it was an inexpensive and fairly easy upgrade, and (3) why risk it?
When I sold that gun, the first question asked by the buyer was, "does it have the original trigger?" He would not have bought it had I not replaced it, especially for the fact that he intended for one of his sons to use it.
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 12/6/14 at 3:07 pm to swanny297
quote:
Any gun produced after April 9th of this year is OK.
Nice, thanks
Posted on 12/6/14 at 3:33 pm to DownSouthJukin
Id put a timmny long before I sent it back if I was hunting with it. I doubt it's worth the lead time.
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