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Rank these B1G football programs based on ability to win
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:47 am
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:47 am
Rank the following programs based on ability to win.
consider facilities, fans, recruiting grounds, history, etc. etc.
1. Ohio state----clear leader IMO. best facilities, best recruiting state.
2a. Penn State----I know this is controversial, but a beast mode coach at PSU has a lot more recruiting ground than Michigan. PSU also has the history and facilities to compete.
2b. Michigan-----History, facilities. Can recruit nationally and Ohio.
3. Michigan State---facilities and proximity to Ohio
4. Wisconsin-----Can always have OL. just run a power run scheme.
5. Nebraska----committed to football, good facilities, good history.
I know some will list Rutgers, Maryland, and Illinois due to proximity to recruits, but these schools have not shown they're committed to football and do not have the fanbase to consistently compete.
consider facilities, fans, recruiting grounds, history, etc. etc.
1. Ohio state----clear leader IMO. best facilities, best recruiting state.
2a. Penn State----I know this is controversial, but a beast mode coach at PSU has a lot more recruiting ground than Michigan. PSU also has the history and facilities to compete.
2b. Michigan-----History, facilities. Can recruit nationally and Ohio.
3. Michigan State---facilities and proximity to Ohio
4. Wisconsin-----Can always have OL. just run a power run scheme.
5. Nebraska----committed to football, good facilities, good history.
I know some will list Rutgers, Maryland, and Illinois due to proximity to recruits, but these schools have not shown they're committed to football and do not have the fanbase to consistently compete.
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:55 am to Moustache
Leaving out Maryland and Rutgers because I still don't know enough about their programs. Rutgers could be as great as they wanted to be IMO...
1. Michigan
1a. Ohio State
2. Wisconsin
3. Nebraska
4. Penn State
5. Michigan State
6. Iowa
7. Minnesota
1. Michigan
1a. Ohio State
2. Wisconsin
3. Nebraska
4. Penn State
5. Michigan State
6. Iowa
7. Minnesota
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 11:19 am
Posted on 12/4/14 at 10:57 am to Moustache
1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. Wisconsin
4. Michigan State
5. Nebraska
6. Penn State
2. Michigan
3. Wisconsin
4. Michigan State
5. Nebraska
6. Penn State
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:00 am to Moustache
Michigan has better facilities than OSU, but I think OSU being in Ohio puts them at 1.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:01 am to SabiDojo
Just curious as to why you guys are rating Penn State below Wisconsin and Nebraska?
I"m not asking a rate the teams as they stand now. I"m asking about their potential.
Penn State is one of the only major schools on the Eastern Seaboard. They recruit Penn, NJ, and NOVA, sprinkle in some OH and they have a damn good football team. A sleeping giant. Picture LSU circa 1999 IMO.
I know the scandal put a black eye on them, but kids are committing to Franklin and they're looking to end up with a top 10 class this year.
Wisky and especially Nebraska can't come close to recrutiing as well as PSU can.
I"m not asking a rate the teams as they stand now. I"m asking about their potential.
Penn State is one of the only major schools on the Eastern Seaboard. They recruit Penn, NJ, and NOVA, sprinkle in some OH and they have a damn good football team. A sleeping giant. Picture LSU circa 1999 IMO.
I know the scandal put a black eye on them, but kids are committing to Franklin and they're looking to end up with a top 10 class this year.
Wisky and especially Nebraska can't come close to recrutiing as well as PSU can.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:02 am to TreyAnastasio
quote:
Michigan has better facilities than OSU, but I think OSU being in Ohio puts them at 1.
Agreed.
That's why I rated PSU and MICh both #2. I think PSU being near NJ and in Penn is better than Michigan having to share their state with MSU. But Michigan's national perception and facilities are far better.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:07 am to Forkbeard3777
quote:
1. Michigan
1a. Ohio State
That attitude right there is one of the main reasons your program is in the state it is in.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 11:08 am
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:07 am to TreyAnastasio
quote:
Michigan has better facilities than OSU, but I think OSU being in Ohio puts them at 1.
Flip a coin on the two in my opinion. They are at a dead heat. Michigan recruits nationally, Michigan takes its fair share from Ohio, and Ann Arbor has access to the Detroit area. That's not to say that Ohio State isn't a national program either. I just think Michigan can surpass them on the national level with a competent coach.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:08 am to Moustache
1. Ohio State
2. Michigan St
3. Michigan
4. Wisconsin
5. Nebraska
6. Penn St
7. Illinois
8. Rutgers
9. Maryland
10. Iowa
11. Minnesota
12. Northwestern
13. Purdue
14. Indiana
2. Michigan St
3. Michigan
4. Wisconsin
5. Nebraska
6. Penn St
7. Illinois
8. Rutgers
9. Maryland
10. Iowa
11. Minnesota
12. Northwestern
13. Purdue
14. Indiana
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 11:09 am
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:08 am to Moustache
quote:
5. Nebraska
Its
1.Michigan/Nebraska/Ohio State
2.Penn State
3.Michigan State
4.Wisconsin
5.Iowa
6.Everyone else
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:10 am to TreyAnastasio
quote:
Michigan has better facilities than OSU
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:10 am to Moustache
Win what championships?
If so heres my list
If so heres my list
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:12 am to KosmoCramer
Can someone explain to me how you can think Nebraska has better potential than Penn State?
Saban at Penn State would do better than Saban at Nebraska. Fact.
Saban at Penn State would do better than Saban at Nebraska. Fact.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:12 am to Moustache
quote:
Just curious as to why you guys are rating Penn State below Wisconsin and Nebraska?
I"m not asking a rate the teams as they stand now. I"m asking about their potential.
Penn State is one of the only major schools on the Eastern Seaboard. They recruit Penn, NJ, and NOVA, sprinkle in some OH and they have a damn good football team. A sleeping giant. Picture LSU circa 1999 IMO.
I know the scandal put a black eye on them, but kids are committing to Franklin and they're looking to end up with a top 10 class this year.
Wisky and especially Nebraska can't come close to recrutiing as well as PSU can.
I don't know? There is more to it than recruiting advantages. State College is a very weird place. As an outsider, it gave me an uncomfortable vibe. They place a huge emphasis on football, but so does the Children of the Corn and Wisky. Nebraska does well in the St. Louis and Chicago areas...Wisconsin is Wisconsin. Camp Randall, Madison.....such a great, great college atmosphere. Arguably one of the best. They are always good at what they do. Unlike other schools, I feel as if they don't need access to top quality recruits to maintain success.
ETA: Nebraska is probably the ONLY school that has fired two coaches for going 10-3 and 9-3. I don't think any other university has the balls to do that. They demand excellence. I admire their grit and determination to win.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 11:15 am
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:13 am to KosmoCramer
Not sure what you are confused about. Its not close.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:13 am to Forkbeard3777
quote:
State College is a very weird place. As an outsider, it gave me an uncomfortable vibe.
Explain. If the Sandusky scandal never came to light, would people be saying this?
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:14 am to Moustache
I thought it was a weird spot too. Its so separated from the rest of the world.
Stadium fricking blows too.
Stadium fricking blows too.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:16 am to Moustache
quote:
Explain. If the Sandusky scandal never came to light, would people be saying this?
This was pre-Sandusky scandal...
I'm not sure how to describe it. I've read that some people say Texas A&M is an odd place. Same thing at State College. It was just a different atmosphere...You are in the dead middle of Pennsylvania with noting around it...
You saw what they did after the scandal...the demand for the Joe Paterno statue, etc...people there were delusional...almost a no one comes in, no one leaves type atmosphere.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 11:18 am
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:17 am to TreyAnastasio
quote:
Stadium fricking blows too.
It sucks watching that weather come up the valley at you and knowing you can't do a damned thing to get out of the way. Was at a game there in the 80's where we started the game in short sleeves and were shivering and getting soaked in freezing rain and sleet by the end of the game.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 11:17 am to TreyAnastasio
quote:
Not sure what you are confused about. Its not close.
I'm not arguing because I really don't know enough to compare the two, but what are you basing this on?
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